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Comment Re:Saving? (Score 1) 91
I would argue if you ran the calculations on your rental houses versus investing in the S&P500, the S&P500 would surely win by a significant margin.
Today though, or even since 2011, this strategy could not have replicated the same results. For most Americans, the ship has long sailed on leveraged real estate investments being such a great source of wealth accumulation. Gen X was the last generation able to enjoy this, for us Millennials and even worse for Gen X, it hasn't worked out.
Comment Re:Saving? (Score 1) 91
That said, even with massive bay area home value appreciation (400-500% since 2001); it still doesn't beat investing the money. I understand for some a forced leveraged investment like a home might be the only way they have the financial discipline to achieve these results. But, if you did have Boglehead type discipline, the results are staggeringly in favor of not buying.
If you bought a $500k house with $100k down in 2002, you'd have a $2mm house today..with significant attrition on those gains based on property taxes and mortgage interest and maintenance paid in the interim. If you straight invested that $100k in 2002 in a low cost S&P500 index fund, and didn't add any more money since, you'd have about $1mm today. However, if you rented at $2,000 a month back then and invested the delta between the mortgage and the rent over time in the S&P500, you'd have about $3.16mm today.
Ultimately this comes down to financial discipline and behavior.
However, these results in Bay Area real estate could not be replicated in the current generation (at least since 2011 or so). If you invested the $100k in 2011 in the S&P500, you'd have $776k today. Even with the $500k house optimistically doubling, you'd have less equity than the S&P500 investment.