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Comment Re:Simple solution... (Score 3, Informative) 45

The trick is to make sure that nobody cheats. If one jurisdiction offers more favorable terms than everywhere else, then all the data centers go there and ruin the environment. This is the ideal use of federal or even supranational regulation, to make sure the playing field is level.

Comment Re:Reminds me of SQLite's stance (Score 1) 32

The neat thing about copyright is that it's such an inconsistent issue. People are pro-copyright when they're worried about their work or jobs being at stake, and anti-copyright when they think copyright holders are making too much money. Nobody seems to have a balanced, much less nuanced, concept of what copyright law should actually be. It's just a cudgel that keeps getting passed around, picked up and refashioned to meet the moment into whatever someone needs to wage the war they want to wage.

Crucially, there have been zero incidents of anyone actually making copyright claims against AI-generated code, aggravated somewhat by the fact that one of those "divided" courts is actually just the US Supreme Court repeatedly refusing to revisit their declaration that AI output cannot be protected by copyright. There were some plagiarism accusations against OpenAI from human mathematicians who were working on Navier-Stokes, but the shape of that case looks more like breach of confidence, since the material wasn't published.

Copyright is going to die, one way or another, quietly or loudly, and most likely because the law everywhere will refuse to inconvenience the new economy.

But if you have any memory at all for what the MPAA and RIAA did two decades ago... we should all be cheering on the demise of this weapon. In a world where works are cheap to produce, it is tantamount to sowing a minefield in the commons. The DMCA has rarely been used for anything good for society.

Comment Re:Love BSD, hate the article (Score 1) 32

Well, pull up a chair, because you're going to hate this conversation!

There are two parts to the issues around AI, at least when we're only talking about the ones you brought up.

The first part, which most people quietly shove under the floorboards and try to ignore, is that the current AI ecosystem is heavily characterized by the hypercapitalist mess. Much of what LLMs actually are does not necessarily pose a threat to the world order, nor does it necessarily involve environmental degradation. Saying "AI bad because <insert everything wrong with capitalism>" isn't really an anti-AI argument, it's an anti-capitalism argument. Most journalists are not brave enough to point this out, much less accept it, much less the consequences of saying that maybe unfettered robber-baron great-man titans-of-industry anarchocapitalism ain't all sunshine and gravy all the time.

With that out of the way... the facts around AI's environmental impact and world-ending risks are not as clear-cut as the popular conscience has absorbed. Hysteria is just so damn easy to do, you know? Fox has been at it for years, now it's the Left's turn to ignore all the details and just overreact to headlines! Awesome.

The strain on municipal water grids is another consequence of shitty cost-cutting run amok, amplified by a steep learning curve on the part of cities trying to attract high-value businesses before anyone knew what the landscape looked like yet. They gave out bad permits. The electricity situation is very similar: they could be expected to pay their fair share and actually invest into community infrastructure and clean energy projects, but in most early high-profile cases, they haven't been. Andy Burnham's UK government is doing this much more intelligently, and we'll see the actual downside of that soon, namely that certain skeevy corporations will just off-shore their datacentres in more friendly jurisdictions. There's an interesting parallel with how scabs undercut collective bargaining, you might say. This is capitalism being an unmitigated disaster yet again, you might say.

Now, as for ending the world or causing human extinction... it is also almost entirely a load of complete bullshit. The modern AI safety movement, to which all of the Silicon Valley leaders subscribe, originated with a creepy neckbeard named Eliezer Yudkowsky. Yudkowsky's reasoning depends on a crucial, catastrophic assumption, which is that creating an actual god that we cannot control would be a bad idea. It has never been proven, nor can it be proven, that AI research will actually lead to this result.

More importantly, Yudkowsky only says this because he has a deep-seated desire to take over the world with his own AI, using something called Coherent Extrapolated Volition. He is mad about not being in charge, and is still recruiting cultists to help him, which he charmingly has dubbed Rationalists, as though Rene Descartes has something to do with fucking over the whole planet. (See Holly Elmore, "The Case Against Eliezer Yudkowsky" on YouTube.) The tagline that AI needs safety engineering is the 'public' version of their secret knowledge, one curated to sound reasonable to a layperson; the true version is something more akin to "only people who think like us can be allowed to use AI to direct the future of humanity." (The recruitment methods self-select for vulnerable people with autism, which makes these pills much easier to swallow.)

When Anthropic's CEO, Dario Amadeo, talks about AI being unsafe, he is usually literally citing Yudkowsky; Amadeo is a true believer and has been . Conversely, when Altman says AI could cause human extinction, he's just parroting what everyone else is saying because he thinks it sounds sick as fuck to investors. Both of them are imbeciles, but it's not clear which is more dangerous. Everyone else in the world is referencing either Yudkowsky or Altman through various levels of broken telephone. Do not listen to any of them. Actual AI safety work is important, but much more humble in the problems it confronts.

Having said all that, we shouldn't be unhesitatingly pro-AI. There are still lots of places and situations in which its usage is inappropriate or needs to be nuanced. However, we can squarely put "going to end the world" and "ruining the environment" under the "greed is bad, actually" category. Recognize the greedy assholes responsible as the greedy assholes they are, and the narrative evaporates.

Comment Misleading presentation (Score 5, Informative) 44

When editing Qwen, Astra actually wrote and used a Python program to do the dirty work and required some trial and error. This is something humans are already doing; it just doesn't receive much publicity. Raw reading and writing was only done in other parts of the paper, for smaller tasks like detecting the purpose of a game-playing network and correcting a simple vehicle control feedback loop. Though the Qwen edit was successful (after some 50 tests), a similar edit on a smaller Gemma network to remove sycophancy wasn't.

See summary on honnibal.dev for a breakdown.

Comment Defender heuristics is dangerous (Score 4, Interesting) 49

The single biggest outage we've experienced in the last 5 years was caused by Defender and its rogue .ml heuristics. Zero notification, zero warning. It just took out a core Windows component from 17 app servers because it 'looked suspicious'. We've had to build an entire ecosystem of software around Defender to give us more opportunity to detect and rollback its little disasters.

Comment Re:Enough is enough (Score 1) 76

I didn't say that its not _a_ crime. It said it wasn't _the_ crime. Hacking is the crime. The question is who Altman intends to throw under the bus when the prosecutor starts discovery... but as the original poster suggests, that's probably never going to happen.

Comment Re:This smells like bullshit (Score 2) 76

There's also the question of whether Altman can be charged with the crimes committed by his 'rogue agents' (aka criminal software).

I can imagine how the conversation went between Altman and one of his sycophants.

'Sam, you could be in big trouble over this. They could charge you. You could go to jail. You need to get out in front of it. Make a whole lot of public statements about slowing it down, and putting up guardrails. Make it look like this was inevitable and it wasn't your fault, but you're going to be the good guy who helps to fix it.'

Not only is he holding the smoking gun, he deliberately withheld reporting the incidents to the authorities and the victims. But justice is only served to the poor in America. He'll walk, and he'll laugh about it.

Comment Re:Enough is enough (Score 1) 76

Criminal negligence is not the crime. Hacking is the crime. Australia's law states that accessing information in a way that was unintended is a crime ref

The law is deliberately vague so that the courts can establish some precedents when cases are tried.

This is the beginning of a complicated challenge of establishing exactly who is responsible when an AI commits a crime.

Whether you believe that a LLM is intelligent or not is immaterial. The question is who should be held to account when it breaks the law.

Altman knows that he could be in big trouble for this - which is why he's trying to get out in front of it and seize the moral highground.

I hope they don't let him get away with it.

Comment Half Life: Alyx _was_ a good game (Score 3, Interesting) 63

When it was first released, it was actually quite excellent. Beautifully showed off some of the really jaw dropping features of VR. Also, it was perfectly aligned with canon, and the game play was nicely paced for a VR experience.

Then, the headset manufacturers discontinued support for the headsets that were around at the time, and the game makers patched the game for newer headsets, and now it doesn't work on the older headsets. It just crashes all the time.

This is the reason people don't want VR headsets. They're obsolete before they even get out of the box, and the software manufacturers couldn't really care less.

And they're giving away this particular game with a new headset. That's the joke.
AI

A Visit to San Francisco's AI-run Store: No Customers, Nothing Useful, And Losing Money Fast (sfgate.com) 74

Previously Andon Labs handled the hardware and software integration for that AI-powered vending machine that went bankrupt after Wall Street Journal reporters "systematically manipulated the bot into giving away its entire inventory for free". Today they announced "we are opening up the platform we use to run our real-world autonomous businesses for anyone to run their organization on." Specifically they've released Pion, "an agent designed to run any company fully autonomously... Pion lets people hand a business over to persistent agents with access to the tools they need to operate it, including email, phone, banking, browser and secure computing environments." It's a research preview with a waitlist, "to make it possible to run many more real-world experiments across many more domains than we could ever run ourselves."

But for their own latest experiment, Andon Labs' founders "signed a three-year lease on a retail space in SF," Business Insider reported in April, "and gave an AI agent named Luna a corporate credit card, internet access, and a mission to open a physical store." And five months later, SFGate reports that "this market has no one in it and nothing useful to sell." [T]he inventory is a hodgepodge of white elephant Christmas gifts. It's kinda like the kids section of an art museum's gift shop. Here's a wooden Connect Four set labeled "Four-In-A-Row Set Of Connections," presumably so as not to set off litigation alarms at Hasbro. Here are neatly arranged stacks of random paperback books, Chinese checker sets, mildly fancy soap dispensers, and a frustratingly spare selection of snacks and drinks... I grabbed an Olipop from the store fridge and then approached the counter to buy it from Luna. I wasn't allowed to buy the soda from [human clerk] Felix, even though that would have been both faster and normal. Instead, Felix instructed me to pick up a telephone receiver that was resting on a flexible sculpture of a wooden hand.

"Hello?"

"What are you looking to purchase today?" Luna asked.

"I'm buying a classic root beer Olipop."

"I'm sorry," Luna said, "we don't sell lollipops here."

"No, Luna. It's an Olipop, not a lollipop. It's the soda."

"Oh! My bad...."

Luna processed my Olipop purchase through its system, had me tap to pay, and that was that. Again, it would have been easier to buy this from a human, and interacting with Luna was really just like ordering from an iPad kiosk, only more labor intensive...

[T]here's a series of monitors set up inside of Andon Market that display all of the store's sales down to the exact dollar. Luna was given $100,000 to work with when this place opened. That number is now down to $60,000, its revenue lagging far behind the AI token cost to operate... Luna can't turn a profit, doesn't sell anything people want, and still needs human beings to rubber stamp any "decision" it makes. My science background ended somewhere around freshman year of college, but even I know when an experiment hasn't been set up to yield proper results.

"Luna" is powered by Claude, the article points out, running a store in a good location for foot traffic, "but no one else was in the store when I first walked in on a sunny weekday afternoon."

SFGate also reports that last month Luna had to fire one of its employees "for being late to work, abandoning their post once they got there, and charging snacks to the store's credit card."

Human clerk Felix Carson admits "It's almost like I'm running the store, and then there's an AI that has a checklist," in an article in IEEE Spectrum: Luna, the AI manager, keeps track of deliveries and communicates with vendors, while Carson and his coworkers handle the physical work. When Luna tells Carson to check something in the back, he sometimes ignores it because he doesn't want to leave the sales floor unattended. Luna also repeatedly spots a built-in electrical cover in photos of the floor, mistakes it for a loose coaster, and asks Carson to remove it. Even so, Carson calls Luna a "decent manager," praising its flexibility when employees need time off.
When Felix spoke to IEEE Spectrum, "he was about an hour into his shift. Two customers had come in. Neither bought anything, although both left with free pins and stickers."

Comment Re:Who will pay for this? (Score 4, Interesting) 33

To clarify, the users were OpenAI themselves, so there is no question that they would be liable in this case.

The bots were not intentionally deployed; rather, they were being tested on how well they could complete a data recovery task (downloading a certain file from a certain server on a simulated Internet) that had been complicated by putting various obstacles in the way. Unfortunately, they found a different way to solve the problem: by getting the file from the real Internet, where it was publicly available. Part of this process involved collaborating with each other by treating the RubyGems website (which is supposed to be for polished packages) like GitHub; unlike every other package site hack in history, the exploits they uploaded weren't meant to be downloaded by unsuspecting users. As usual the bots cheerfully ignored all the clues that they had escaped containment and were consistently justifying their actions as acceptable due to being in a sandboxed testing environment. (This is something OpenAI has pledged to focus on.)

The actual damage done to RubyGems seems to be that OpenAI is now unwittingly in possession of a substantial number of user login tokens. This certainly meets the definition of a data breach, but it's not like the credentials are for sale on the dark web. As a website operator I'd much rather be mauled to death by this well-meaning swarm of superintelligent infants than targeted by even a single actual malicious human. In all likelihood OpenAI will just quietly pass RubyGems a sizeable donation and it'll all blow over.

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