And wikipedia is a bastion of truth right?
Once again religion =/= organized religion. Yes the catholic church is responsible for a multitude of atrocities. Hell pick me a church and I am sure we can find atrocities attributed to them. That is the church(an organization) not the religion. Think of it like statistics. Anyone can take religion and bend it to their point of view. Much like statistics, it does not render the underlying numbers invalid. It just skews the results.
Examples of "supernatural" (a.k.a. bullshit) claims that science can help answer:
* Does prayer work to cure the sick? Sciences indicates no. - As pointed out this actually has been shown to work. Sure it is a placebo effect but it worked.
* Was the world formed in six days? Science indicates no. - Who is defining the days?
* Did Noah get every species onto a boat? Science indicates no. - Actually scientists think he did get all of the species in his region. But remember at that time the world was what was close to you. It never said he got all the animals on the planet. Just in his world.
* Are we reincarnated? Sciences indicates no. Now we are jumping into hinduism? Although I will agree reincarnations does seem to be impossible based on our current scientific knowledge.
These can all be proved negative to my satisfaction.
Then you need to improve your level of deductive reasoning and realize there is so much we still need to learn about the universe.
I didn't say science has anything to say about religion. Science is merely the act of trying to find answers with reason, and proving it with evidence. It's not a religion - it doesn't say a thing.
You are correct it doesn't, yet you seem to be using it as your religion.
I said "Anyone who truly understands science is..." not "Science is...". People who understand science see people being swindled by religion all the time - people are hurt by religion. Think about the babies raped in Africa to "cure HIV" - this is an extreme example of a false belief that is widely shared - basically a disorganised religion. If these people thought scientifically, they wouldn't do that. Same with faith healers, fortune telling, cold reading, greedy evangelists, stoned women etc.
You are making a fatal error here. Religion =/= Organized religion. You have a beef with organized religion. A bastion that uses real religion to accomplish non religious goals. Remember it was the Catholic church (an organization) that was the main oppressor of scientific advance. Not the religion of christianity. Rail against the extreme right and their misguided policies that are not based on their religion but on their "church" all you want and I will support that. But do not state that religion and science cannot co-exist.
Known as the Peeters report, after lead author P.M. Peeters, the authors of Plane Simple Truth refute the wide-spread belief that the fuel efficiency gains in the commercial aviation sector are erroneous, which is the principle theme of the Peeters report."
The authors of Plane Simple Truth are known as the Peeters report; the authors are named after lead author P.M. Peeters. The authors demonstrate that the principle theme of the Peeters report, namely that there have been significant fuel efficiency gains in the commercial aviation sector, is correct, contrary to wide-spread beliefs.
There, fixed that for you.
Actually the authors of Plane Simple Truth are refuting the authors of the Peeters report which claim that the fuel efficiency gains in the commercial aviation sector are erroneous.
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