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Comment Search for AI, find AI (Score 1) 68

So the quote from Nicholas Thompson:

Wow. The podslop is coming fast.
I just searched “Sora” on Spotify and 3/4 top searches are the same voice, no host name, ripoff show names, identical content

So if you search for AI, you get lots of AI results.

I don't think this is an apt way to find "slop". I can search for anything, and get lots of that thing.

The fact you can generate on the fly podcast type things doesn't mean podcasts are going away, the podcasts still exist. As long as people listen to those, they will get more attention. Two people talking to each other about niche topics has always been a thing. Just because we can now make a machine talk about something so niche you can't even get two people to talk about it isn't going to ruin the world.

Let the AI read that obscure fanfic with 200 views to me, with proper tone and inflections. Let it read out the amazon reviews, so someone with bad eyesight can hear the reviews. This makes things more accessible, not less.

It's something that couldn't exist before.

Comment Re:Illegal? (Score 5, Informative) 28

Why would it be illegal to give them a discount? I understand not wanting to undermine the relationship with the other vendors, but illegal?

Discounts are fine.Companies collaborating with each other to fix prices is not. Price Fixing per the FTC :

Price fixing is an agreement (written, verbal, or inferred from conduct) among competitors to raise, lower, maintain, or stabilize prices or price levels. Generally, the antitrust laws require that each company establish prices and other competitive terms on its own, without agreeing with a competitor.

It's the difference between "let's do a discount" and "let's always be cheaper for this product anywhere, but only on this platform"

Comment There's more than just recall (Score 2) 22

These studies really irk me, because it all reminds me of studies on "does the internet make us dumber?" and junk like the "google effect" where people are less able to recall things, because they remember how to look it up, but not the information.

We have a giant collection of all of human knowledge that doubles every seven or so years, which doubles again the next year, which probably is going to get even faster soon as we get more efficient.

I'd love to see a double blind study that compares someone who researches knowledge in a book, versus online, versus AI, and compares all three as far as relative intelligence on things all three can look up. Give all of them a way to remember that info that's shown to increase recall (like say, all of them have to write it down), vs a control group that gets nothing, and just writes it down. I'd bet that all of them would perform about the same, and would probably all be within a margin of error.

If you're lazy, don't take notes and just skim the book, you're going to fail the test.

Repetition breeds knowledge and I want to see that taken into account. It's not the AI making people dumber, it's not repeating the info.

Comment They're better, but still have flaws (Score 1) 40

They've gotten better in recent months.

I just hate that I mostly use it the same way I used to use google before. Google now tends to prioritize AI written garbage. The AI, ironically, can often dig up pages with actual research.

Most of which will vaguely summarize a topic, but have no actual research on whatever topic you're looking for. If you don't really constrain it, the ai will tend to go on tangents and generate lots of fluff.

You're always going to end up running into hallucinations if whatever you're searching for is actually outside the training data. I tend to go off the rails enough that being able to recognize when it's giving a load of hot air and trying to guess is a much needed skill for dealing with AI. Newer ones are getting better at saying "I don't know" which is huge progress though, but I still bump into it often enough that I'm still cautious.

Comment Re:A computer is useless if you're never taught (Score 1) 109

Your school is doing what many of my local schools have ditched.

I've been getting many new employees who don't know how to type, how to navigate simple system menus, or how to find files.

Your work is needed, thank you for what you do, we need more people like you.

Comment We're going to see more of these age bills (Score 1) 168

There's a thread on reddit about the versions of this.

Meta seems to be the big sponsor behind these bills. In the long run, by tossing this on the OS, they can say they did everything right, it's the fault of the computer, not them.

Lots of it is all over the place, but we're seeing several copy pasted pieces of legislation all over the country. We're probably going to see a bigger push, both at the national and local level depending on where they find the most success.

I wouldn't be surprised if they start popping up in more states, California is likely the proving ground.

Comment A computer is useless if you're never taught (Score 4, Insightful) 109

They also got rid of all the classes that would help them, that older students had.

Typing? Gone.
How to use excel / office? Gone.
How to navigate a computer? Also gone.

It all comes down to the "Myth of the digital native" because kids grew up with tech, they were assumed to know all about it.

I'm pretty good at computers now, but I started with typing classes, with classes on programming, classes on networking, classes on navigation. My parents couldn't teach me that stuff, they didn't know anything. And I know many of my peers, despite growing up with computers, didn't know more than how to navigate to a website.

Tablets are even worse, since they lock everything down. A few hours of courses, not even a full semester worth and they'd do way better.

Comment Re:New World Order. (Score 1) 66

Right, so I wouldn't let someone through just because sex/gender, "race", sexuality, etc. because that is a quality not related to their skill.

I need to hire the person who is the most skilled for the position, based on whatever criteria I have.

It's funny, I wasn't trying to mirror the propaganda, but the propaganda has gone so far it circles back to "DEI is bad, you should hire based on merit" which is the whole point of having DEI in the first place, since we have a long history of not hiring on merit at all and are blatantly biased, sometimes to our own detriment.

The doublespeak has gotten so crazy lately.

Comment Re: DEI (Score 1) 66

Unfortunately, your comment that "as always, depends on the work" is the catch with all of what you described. It's awesome that a properly applied DEI hiring policy for orchestras resulted in a near 50/50 mix of male and female musicians performing symphonies. But that's also a situation where realistically, none of the "customers" (the people buying the tickets to hear performances) care about anything but the music that's being performed. Gender has nothing to do with that outcome.

You vastly underestimate the competitiveness in the music space. Gender has nothing to do with the outcome is the point, if you evaluate on skill alone you get a mix of people. There's also the change in who gets training and skill, a skilled musician often has to practice for 5-6 hours a day to stay sharp. See Malcolm Gladwell's "The Tipping Point" for examples of this kind of thing. There's a reason we don't have many good hockey players born in June, for example. There's sometimes other reasons.

Hiring the "most skilled" person for a given job is often more of a "mushy" dance around finding the best possible combination of hard skills and at least some of the things you're not allowed to say you're *really* looking for. For example, I've worked at marketing companies before and their top performing salespeople creating new leads and/or closing deals are universally physically attractive and mostly younger. It would be a lie to pretend that's just coincidence.

As someone who also has worked in marketing, who has experience with top marketers who look like insane hobos, I think your sample is biased. At the same time, all of them universally cared about their appearance, and with a few exceptions, knew when and when appearances mattered.

This is exactly what lead to the blind test in orchestras. Before the curtains they'd say certain musicians "lacked finesse" , or "didn't have the motivation" or other various things. There are certain things people will always prioritize, if someone is attractive, taller than you, or you have some way of identifying that person is in the same group as you, you're more likely to want to deal with them.

What you should be asking is, is this something that I need people with a certain background for, or do I need people from a wider variety of backgrounds with different skills who can identify problems or bring something new to the table that I can't when hiring.

Comment Re:New World Order. (Score 5, Interesting) 66

So you're saying, you can be easily replaced with AI.

AI is fantastic for doing things like summarizing points, doing things like booking appointments and following a preset of instructions with some variance.

It's also good for digging into things and getting research. It's also great at getting the mathematically most common opinion on almost any subject, but you need to be able to tell when it's making stuff up.

DEI would be I can't hire someone based on some quality not related to their skill, so need to hire the "most skilled" 'worker for that position, whatever that is.

Although I'm a chick, so I know from experience if I use my initials, I'll get more interviews than if I put my name, and modify nothing else on my resume, so I'm probably blatantly biased in favor of DEI because I have personal experience with it. If you believe it means something else, you really need to sit down and read it.

Done properly, it looks something like Blind Auditions which many orchestras use to eliminate bias when interviewing candidates, so they can focus specifically on the quality of music each person makes. Orchestras went from 99% male to 50/50.

As always, depends on the work, AI like any other tool has its strengths and weaknesses. Knowing our propensity for busy work though, we're probably going to end up with job positions for AI prompt copy editing soon enough, making sure the prompts made for the AI are properly formatted to minimize the chance of hallucinations. It's the usual wheel of tech, we'll eliminate a bunch of jobs, lots of people will be out of work due to not using the new skill, and we pay a premium for that skill until we can boil it down until that skill doesn't matter anymore.

Comment Re:Netzero and Juno (Score 3, Informative) 92

The relevant part is "the Gmail service itself will no longer retrieve messages from external providers."

This means even if you straight up have IMAP support on your external server (Say, your company / private email server) google wont fetch email from there.

The solution they have listed doesn't work, since being able to use your mobile app to check mail, and being able to actually get that mail are two very different things. jwz (owner of the dnalounge) has an amazing breakdown of the issues this causes.

This is ripping out a feature and replacing it with nothing. It's not just Netzero and Juno, it's any email account you have, there is no good replacement for this.

Comment Small businesses will suffer for this (Score 3, Insightful) 42

We have no more public domain. Almost everything in the past century is copyrighted by someone, and disney has bought up a significant portion of the creative works that came out, despite being a company that started on the public domain.

If we had the same setup back then, the works that were put out in the 1930s and 1940s would have been under copyright still from the late 1800s.

Throw in on top of that, most of the usage is for non-commercial use for their copyrighted stuff. If someone is using it to make prints of their IP and sell them? Throw the book at them.

If I use it to make a parody of Disney's work, that's allowed legally.

That said, Disney wants a cut of all the AI stuff. This will probably end up being settled out of court with some kind of deal between Disney and Google. At the same time, we'll start seeing smaller AI companies crushed because they're too small to implement whatever content filters and other stuff needed to accomidate the scale of what they want.

We saw the same thing happen with file sharing sites back in the day, anyone could host a server, but anyone who opened to the public and couldn't deal with filtering for copyrighted things constantly got crushed. Now we're at a point where if you aren't Google or Microsoft or some large cloud provider you can't start a file sharing company. We're seeing the same idea being used to go after AI, since its a tool that can be used to violate copyright.

For copyrighted things the burden is placed on the companies that provide services, instead of the much harder to track individuals.

Comment AI Articles are vapid garbage usually (Score 4, Insightful) 61

It now takes me a couple seconds to figure out if an article is something interesting, or a vapid vauge summary of general knowledge on the subject.

If I'm searching for it, it means I'm looking for something actually on the subject, I'm aware of what it is, and I need info about it.

Not something like:
Vauge header one
This is what thing is.

Vauge header two that sounds off
Half hallucinated point one that isn't actually true, and is about some other similar sounding subject

Vauge header three
Rehashed first paragraph

Conclusion
Thing is a thing, this is a vauge summary of the thing.

I swear that's like, every single AI article I find. Bland slop pushed out by some version of ai that was obsolete a couple years ago, generated by a prompt along the lines of "Write an article about this" with no additional context or effort, likely because it saw a certain subject was trending somewhere.

Once in awhile I'll find one that's actually interesting, but if it's on the first page of google, it's likely trash.

Funnily, this actually pushes me to AI myself, since I can go to the AI, and get a better explanation of what I'm looking for than searching for examples, and following whatever links the AI digs up than searching for it. Even then half the time I give up in frustration researching, and just satisfy myself with straight up not knowing an answer, because digging through all the trash isn't worth it.

Comment Garbage In Garbage Out (Score 1) 63

AI is total rubbish at logic.

If you want AI to make code for you if you do anything beyond psuedo code (A does B, returns C) you're going to get rubbish. AI is great for boilerplate repetitive stuff.

CS students in 101 classes shouldn't be using AI for assignments for the same reason you don't give 10 year old calculators, you want them to learn the process first before using other tools.

You need to be able to recognize when it's spitting garbage back out at you.

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