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Comment Re:Hmm ... (Score 1) 591

It depends on what you consider a cause. The US government doesn't care about human rights abuses; that much is clear from its long, long foreign policy record. What the US government cares about is whether the Saudis will "play nice" and do what they want them to. The minute the Saudis don't, the Saudis become official enemies the same way Saddam Hussein did when he stopped "playing nice".

Comment Re:Chinese Censorship Is Not Nerd News (Score 0) 129

Americans, and really everyone in western style democracies

The United States is not a democracy.

are free to criticize and judge any government, religion, or belief they want to in a public forum.

But not to do anything beyond criticism, in which case, what is the point of criticism?

Comment Re:Big surprise (Score 0) 480

Hardly. I'm not from Iran, but I feel very much th same about the US. I also say: let 'm drown. They run a pretend democracy that still have at least half of the population keep the current set of fear-driven, fear-mongering elite in charge, They simply cannot be persuaded to not fund and otherwise stimulate all sorts of terror groups that do all sorts of stupid and dangerous shit all over the world. They purposely suppress women and gays and black people and working-class people... They do all that and still keep expecting to be treated with respect. I say: let 'em go under good this time. Relativism with respect to what Iran does *is* apples and oranges.

Fixed for you (with bonus spelling errors fixed as well!)

Comment Re:it already is socially unacceptable (Score 1) 467

I agree. Part of the problem is this myth that all of bigotry is contained in a few interpersonal interactions, such as calling people names. If this was so, it would be much less of a problem -- it would be easier to deal with because it would be so open, and it occurs much more rarely than pervasive systemic discrimination anyway. The chief problem is systemic discrimination, where the system of society (government, jobs and employment, and simply what people are permitted or not permitted to do) bars some people from certain activities based on a class, gender, or racial position, while others are fully allowed.

Generally these things aren't as clear-cut as sending black people to the back of the bus -- they are examples more like not adequately trying to prevent rape in certain places of a city, making those places more dangerous and effectively preventing many people from visiting those places for fear of attack. This might be downvoted by some people who tend to be inclined to rape apologia purely because they view rape as something that is strictly between two individuals, rather than a part of a societal whole, as those two individuals are. These things are more about complex social stances -- certain forms of rape being tolerated (as many of these individuals do, perpetuating the problem they are so against finding solutions for), or certain forms of abuse or discrimination being tolerated, are among them.

Ultimately, if you view these issues in the limited context of individual interpersonal interaction you will only just barely scrape the surface of the wider societal context of identity and permitted action. This can be reasoned through quite readily -- why are some things we view negatively more common than others? Why is, say, rape more common than murder? Because it's a question of what is permitted by society, and who can do what to whom. It is much easier for someone to rape the average woman and to rely on her (understandable) issues with discussing it with anyone and with a policing system that generally has more in common with the rapist than the raped, than it is to murder someone (especially a man, especially a white man, especially a rich white man) and get away with it. What individuals do is a result of the society that produced them; change society and you change individuals.

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