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Comment When did you start "seeing" yourself as a engineer (Score 2) 415

It relates more to Stereotype Threat. It's not that black American cultures do not see engineering as a prestigious career. But rather they don't see themselves as engineers. They then self-select themselves out of the educational track needed for these jobs.

Stereotype threat originates both from within the Black communities ( Studious kids are picked on for "acting white" ), and externally ( Teachers do not push Black kids as hard as they do other racists due to their bias ).

Comment No, I don't wonder (Score 1) 415

Then you wonder why your bigoted policy ends up with lots of incompetent diversity candidates.

Aren't you begging the question? Any proof what you said is what actually happens? Because I believe what happens is that by casting a "wider net" recruiters do get minority candidates who are equally qualified.

Comment Being aware of race (Score 0) 415

Being aware of race and related problems does not necessarily make one a racist. What you're not taking into consideration is that underrepresented minorities stay out of these fields because they feel they do no "belong" ( Self-select due to Stereotype Threat for instance). There are also external forces at play.

Having a diversity problem helps younger students see the possibility of having a career in engineering.

Comment Citation please? (Score 4, Informative) 415

Nice try but if you look at the actual numbers, facebook, google, etc.. are hiring a *higher* percentage of minorities than are graduating from college.

Citation please? Where are those "actual numbers" you reference?

But here's my citation, putting black CS grads at 4.5% but hires at 2%...

But last year, 4.5% of all new recipients of bachelor's degrees in computer science or computer engineering from prestigious research universities were African American, and 6.5% were Hispanic, according to data from the Computing Research Association.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/10/12/silicon-valley-diversity-tech-hiring-computer-science-graduates-african-american-hispanic/14684211/

Comment FUD around diversity as usual (Score 1) 115

When it comes to diversity, reasoning goes out the window.

None of the links you posted shows a causal link between Intel's Diversity Initiatives and ending support for the science fair.

Do you actually believe Intel could not afford $306M for both programs?

TFA itself quotes the reason Intel dropped the funding. Intel wants to focus on more "applied" programs...

Mr. Barrett said. “But they appear to be more interested in applied things, like” Maker Faire, an all-ages event that showcases homemade engineering projects.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good hate-filled post.

Comment ... v racism (Score 4, Insightful) 634

Thank you for that observation. Apparently racism does not exist as well. Just read the comments on any diversity article. Almost every top rated comment proclaiming racial bias does not exist in tech. And you are a SJW for saying so.

The difference is that ageism does affect many Slashdot readers. Sexist and racism apparently not so much.

Comment Re:Blacks make 4% of CS grads from top colleges... (Score 1) 398

No one's trying to mislead you. The percentages stay the same for new hires. Many SV firms release their new hire data every year and blacks make 1% and hispanics roughly 2-3%. Source: Annual Diversity Reports from Yahoo/Google/Microsoft/Facebook. These reports are not too hard to find if you really care to look.

Comment Assumption minorities are not top school graduates (Score 1) 398

There is a running and incorrect assumption ( bias ) in Slashdot discussions that minorities are not graduating from top US universities. This isn't true, as Blacks make up 4.5% of top university graduates, and hispanics make 6.5%. A combined 11% of CS/CE graduates from top US schools. But they end up with 3% of the jobs in many of the top firms.

Comment Statistics are not that hard to find... (Score 1) 398

But last year, 4.5% of all new recipients of bachelor's degrees in computer science or computer engineering from prestigious research universities were African American, and 6.5% were Hispanic, according to data from the Computing Research Association.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/10/12/silicon-valley-diversity-tech-hiring-computer-science-graduates-african-american-hispanic/14684211/

If you want measurements you don't have to go very far.

Comment Supply side and demand side issues (Score 1) 398

Blacks and hispanics make 4.5 and 6.5% of the CS graduates from TOP US universities. But they make 1 and 2% of employees. So it's really not just a supply-side issues as you mention. http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/10/12/silicon-valley-diversity-tech-hiring-computer-science-graduates-african-american-hispanic/14684211/

Comment Proof?... (Score 1) 398

Are they turning them out at the same level though? Big universities discriminate like crazy, and will let weaker candidates in their pipelines in computer science if they're female or black much more easily. Some of them will do fine, but a lot will only barely squeeze through, because they were not really qualified in the first place.

Do you have any proof to back that up? Citations? Recent published accounts? Or are we suppose to believe your racist banter as is.

Many of us went to top universities. Did you notice a conspiracy by professors to give minority students passing grades? Even anecdotal evidence would be something. It's like you're not evening trying.

But last year, 4.5% of all new recipients of bachelor's degrees in computer science or computer engineering from prestigious research universities were African American, and 6.5% were Hispanic, according to data from the Computing Research Association.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/10/12/silicon-valley-diversity-tech-hiring-computer-science-graduates-african-american-hispanic/14684211/

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