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Journal KshGoddess's Journal: All Right, That's it! F--- this! I'm leaving! 50

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If you've ever seen that SNL skit, you're probably snickering about now.

All I did was post something that (I thought) said geek girls aren't all bad, and the right ones aren't as much of a pain in the ass as traditional girly-girls.

What do I get? Mostly AC postings. Name-called. One idiot posting in my journal saying 'how do I make you an enemy'.

Serves me right, I guess. My definition of geek is rather specific, and comes from my consulting days.

A "proper" geek has:

  • A dry sense of humor
  • A fairly thorough knowledge of Monty Python
  • An ability to gripe about everything, but still put up with general customer crap with what seems like a smile
  • A drive to fix broken processes (both computer and human)
  • An awareness of the bleeding edge, but a wariness of the 'kids' who early-adopt
  • A fascination with most things technical
  • Personality quirks
  • An ability (even pre-google) to find anything on the 'net

Optionally, a geek can have:

  • An interest in watching/playing sports (and the statistics)
  • The desire to not look like a geek (fancy clothes)
  • A sweet ride
  • A healthy obsession with gaming (tabletop, video, PC)
  • A healthy obsession with sci-fi, fantasy, or anime
  • A girlfriend/boyfriend/wife/husband/etc. Most geeks I have known had at least one from that list.

Geek guys typically don't watch chick flicks unless forced to, preferring horror and action (as well as some sci-fi and drama -- especially when there are b00bs), they don't shirk responsibility ("I broke it!"), and they don't necessarily understand the rest of the population except with a quiet fascination and some crazy theories on behavior.

Unlike popular belief, geeks are social, but they're choosy with who they're social with. Much of the time, geeks will travel in packs of 2-3, or up to 12-20. You will find your average geek hanging out in the bookstore, near the computer books or the sci-fi section, at the movies being especially picky about the plausability of the action, at a comic book store, or whatever the equivalent is of Fry's Electronics in your neck of the woods.

Geek girls are strangely similar in attitude to geek guys. Logical, somewhat on the childish side (not necessarily in a bad way), and into things that aren't typically girly, from sports to computers to construction equipment.

There is always room for the anomaly. That's what makes classifying people so difficult. :P

So, off I go, to read the rest of the rather insightful ("You're a dyke", "You suck!") postings that are left on my messages list... I'll shut up for a while in the major forums from here out, until I can figure out the best PC way to say exactly what it is I mean. And hide it about 2/3 down the page.

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  • W-O-W!

    You almost have me down to a T! I prefer comedies and action more than drama, and I am a homebody, prefering to stay home than 'hang out' somewhere else, but everything else is 100% me.

    Fantastic analysis!

  • Well (Score:2)

    by sulli ( 195030 ) *
    My sweetie is a geek girl, and I love it. Hell, she portscanned me early in our relationship! So I say stick to geekdom, it's good for ya, and sexy too.
  • Does this mean you are not bi and wishing to film your first movie at my place in VA?

    • Um, yes.

      I'm not bi, nor am I wishing to film anything, anywhere. I'm happily heterosexual. Emphasis on the hetero. Emphasis on the sexual. :P

      I think my favorite reply was the "You have to watch out for your husband's feelings." Yeah, I do. But we talk about these things, without having to pull teeth, without awkward 'how are you feeling' conversations, and without a psychotherapist. :P

      • Dang it! Now I need a new fantasy. Back to the rest of the interweb.
      • I'm not bi, nor am I wishing to film anything, anywhere. I'm happily heterosexual. Emphasis on the hetero. Emphasis on the sexual. :P

        lol. Well put. Though I've always wondered why people have this fascination with people who are bi.

        But we talk about these things, without having to pull teeth, without awkward 'how are you feeling' conversations, and without a psychotherapist. :P

        Amen! I do occasionally get accused of being blunt, but it's the only way I know of to get my feelings across without any r

        • I absolutely cringe when I see women say things like "Well, if you loved me, you'd know what I wanted|was feeling|etc.!" How's anyone supposed to intuit that you wanted to go out for Italian, if you've never said anything about liking Italian food? If you're wishy-washy when you mean to be direct, that's what's gonna happen.

          On a "girly" note, this is the first relationship that I've had where it's not all fireworks and orchestras playing... it's so much more subtle, and it's less an exstatic response than

  • what's wrong with chick flicks? :( ;) can geeks guys be hopeless romantics too?
  • A "proper" geek has:

    A dry sense of humor (check)
    A fairly thorough knowledge of Monty Python (check (check)(check))
    An ability to gripe about everything, but still put up with general customer crap with what seems like a smile (check)
    A drive to fix broken processes (both computer and human) (check)
    An awareness of the bleeding edge, but a wariness of the 'kids' who early-adopt (check, but I also like cutting myself on the edge!)
    A fascination with most things technical (check, but I hate cell phones and pda's

    • What's your favorite MP sketch off the top of your head? Mine still has to be either the "How to Not be Seen" [ In this picture there are forty people. None of them can be seen. ] sketch or the French lecture on Sheep Aircraft [stone-dead.asn.au]... something about the way John Cleese goes "baa baaa" is damn funny. That, and the diagram. *snicker*

      • Sketch wise, one of my favorites is the one with the dead parrot. It's not dead, it's just sleeping!

        Also, I like the one where it's something to do with getting a plastic surgery operation. John Cleese is the doctor and Graham Chapman is "Raymond Luxury Yacht"... when it gets to "It's spelt Raymond Luxury Yacht, but it's pronounced THROATWOBBLER MANGROVE!" I just about lose it. I'm not sure why, I just thought it was really funny.

        I still get the lumberjack song stuck in my head on the drive to work...
  • Seriously, I'm going to have to make myself a .sig linking to your JE as it is flawless. I, too, firmly believe that geek girls are far less of a pain than the traditional girly set, and I am now getting into the fancy/sleek clothes thing as a new hobby/experiment. I wish I had something insightful to add here, but you really hit the nail on the head.
  • There are an awful lot of them around. Seems that a large-ish segment of the /. community doesn't actually know (m)any females, and/or hasn't taken the time to get to know them very well, preferring instead to rely on stereotypes they've picked up from tv or something.

    Don't look at me, but there are an awful lot of /.ers who seem to have crawled straight out of the '50s with their mysogyny intact.
  • I looked at the thread. On balance, it was more even-handed than I expected, with very few 'yer a d00d with a little dick' comments.

    • heh, you must've skipped over the 'take those panties off, you're not a chick' and 'you're a dyke' comments. 7 of the 10 messages on that thread that were waiting for me this morning were AC trollios.

      • Heh, look at the comments I get. There are just some people who are afraid of women. Of course I have a sig designed to attract trolls.
  • An ability (even pre-google) to find anything on the 'net

    Ok... since there should be a large numbe of geeks here, go find the holy grail of the 'net: a picture of a monkey having sex with a chicken.

    Go right ahead, I dare you to try and find such a thing.
  • May I start a different thread here?

    KshGoddess has met and married a geek. I met and married a very non-geek. glh (iirc) married and met a non-geek.

    The question is, how are the relationships different?

    Now I'm sure all three couples I mentioned are happily married, so that's not where I'm headed. Mostly how things are different between the pairing.

    For me, some things that come to mind are that I used to be a hardcore gamer with a cutting edge system, now I don't have much time for games, and have
    • Comment removed based on user account deletion

    • So KshGoddess, have you 'added to' your geekiness, or has marriage also made you 'lose some' geekiness?

      I dunno; I think I lost my 'geek cred' when I started being less concerned with OS/Hardware and more interested in artistic pursuits. In the last couple years, I've learned to cook (including baking), sew, quilt, solder, and cut glass.

      I've moved on from my obsession with computers, kinda[1], which makes me less "computer-geeky" although I'd say that I approach my other pursuits with a geek-itude, as I pr

    • I can dare to answer... :)

      I'm what may be considered a "geek" guy.. Well, except for the music, drugs, and partying, but that's what makes be a bit different. :)

      I married a very *NOT* geek girl.. That didn't last long.. On the way out, she tried to destroy all my equipment, just because it was there. She couldn't find the guns though, which probably saved my happy geek life. :)

      She threatened to leave me once, because I bought a $40 video card. Hey, it was cool, it had SVideo out.. :)

      I

      • There's something geek-soothing about going into Fry's. Whether or not you go to the computer parts section or not, it's almost calming to be in the mass of people in Fry's. Much more comfortable than in most other stores.

        We returned gifts that people at work gave us (from Wal-Mart), tried to find something that we could deal with there, and gave up after wriggling through the crowds of icky people with their carts half-in half-out of the aisle.

        We ended up going to Fry's (next door, kinda), and buying a s

        • MMmmmm.. Fry's... I'm having an urge to go there now.. But I must resist, at least until Tuesday.. I ordered a mess of neat-o wireless equipment, but it doesn't all get here til next week. I got my wireless card in today, but from a different vendor than the antennas. This one is 200mW (most cards are 30mW), and takes two external antennas. So, I'm stuck with a spiffy card I can't do anything with til next week. Wahhhhhhh... The #1 reason I hate ordering stuff. I don't want to wait days to pla
    • KshGoddess has met and married a geek. I met and married a very non-geek. glh (iirc) married and met a non-geek.

      Yeah, that's definitely true! My wife is definitely a non-geek. One of these days I'll bring her down to Cinci or we can all meet half way :) (probably not at a computer show, she hates those)

      The question is, how are the relationships different?

      This is a good question. First.. a little background. After I went off to college, I tried to hide from my geeky side because I was known as the "c
      • (probably not at a computer show, she hates those)

        That reminds me... are you going to the cincinnati MS win2k3 server/visual studio .net release party? I signed up for the free stuff but no one else I know is going.
  • A dry sense of humor
    With a healthy dose of sarcasm. And wit. And intelligence.

    A fairly thorough knowledge of Monty Python
    Who? Is that a Canadian thing? Damn Canadians always pushing their TV shows on us, innocent, Americans. (Please see above)

    Do I still count as a geek if I prefer Faulty Towers to Monty Python?

    An ability to gripe about everything, but still put up with general customer crap with what seems like a smile

    I smile, but wish horrible, awful, terrible things on them.

    A drive to fix br

    • I guess you can insert any 'britcom' (as BBC America calls them) for Monty Python, but Monty Python is the de facto standard.

      An awareness of the bleeding edge, but a wariness of the 'kids' who early-adopt
      Huh?

      Example: You've heard of 802.11g, and maybe researched it, but won't buy a card until it's 'proven hardware'.
      Example: The new Linux kernel comes out, and you wait 2 weeks [or some arbitrary time] because by then people would have dealt with the big bugs
      Example: You know the specs for the new [Int

      • Hehe... you said... MUD. :)
      • I guess you can insert any 'britcom' (as BBC America calls them) for Monty Python, but Monty Python is the de facto standard.

        Eh, Monty Python is the only 'britcom' I've ever been able to stand. (I don't count Whose Line is it Anyway as a 'britcom', that show was awesome too!)

        Everything else you're saying hits the nail head on.

        And I don't think you lose geek points when you branch and do non-geeky things (your artistic pursuits as you mentioned in another post), branching out -- having interests in man

      • Example: You know the specs for the new [Intel|AMD|Sparc] processor, but choose not to upgrade, not for financial reasons, but because what you've got is running sufficiently fast enough for you.
        I have absolutely no use for an 8-way opteron server, But, I want one. I dont fit well into peoples categories, although I am a geek.
        The only possible use I can think of for an 8-way system (that I might do) is performing a rip of say, LOTR into my choice of higher compression format at roughly 90-110 fps...
        yeah
    • A dry sense of humor
      Check
    • A fairly thorough knowledge of Monty Python
      Sorry, I have to pass on this one. I've seen some Monthy Python, but unfortunately German and French TV don't like British humour :-( (I do, but where would I get it?)
    • An ability to gripe about everything, but still put up with general customer crap with what seems like a smile
      Oh, yes... That's definately me!
    • A drive to fix broken processes (both computer and human)
      I don't exactly understand what you mean with that. I lov
  • A dry sense of humor
    dunno. You've read my journals. There's definitely some insaneness going on there.

    A fairly thorough knowledge of Monty Python
    yeah. My girl doesn't get it though. In retrospect, I can see why. You gotta be wired differently to appreciate it. Hmm, a journal entry poll is coming on this subject soon. thanks.

    An ability to gripe about everything, but still put up with general customer crap with what seems like a smile
    this is where I differ from the norm. If you are annoying me,
  • Do you make a distinction between nerd and geek?

    I think your definition is too narrow. In particular, I'd replace "fascination with things technical" with "fascination with arcana". I have a friend who translates mathematics textbooks from Ancient Greek into English -- surely a geeky hobby.

    (Are /. ads article aware? It's suddenly trying to sell me pheromones to "attract women as seen on MTV". I guess "as seen on MTV" is a less aliterative way of saying "skanky sophomore spring-break sluts".)

    • This is a litttle late in coming, but...

      Do you make a distinction between nerd and geek?

      I do. Nerds are generally socially unacceptable. I've noticed a distinct subspecies that seems to be very uneasy with themselves. No, I'm not talking about the usual adolescent awkwardness. This goes beyond that, even into adulthood. I mean the full 9 yards of being completely uncomfortable with even themselves. Period. This goes for when alone or with those that they know quite well.

      There's also a distinc

  • I've always seen a true Geek as one who is fanatical above and beyond a "normal" person to the point that it is (almost) socially unacceptable.

    Like a Film Geek. Or a Music Geek. By my definition being gay for LOTR or The Matrix or electro-industrial doesn't count. Most people like movies. You talk to them. "Yeah, man, I love movies." Most computer geeks like movies. But you could term their interest as...

    healthy.

    A film geek knows wierd bits of trivia about movies. Recognizes names in credits othe
    • I'd have to agree with you on that. One of my extremely geeky friends can rattle off information about comic book artists and the variations in their styles ad infinitum.

      Personally, I began obsessing when I was still just a kid. Most of my hard-core obsessions fall into two broad categories: living things, and communication. "Living things" includes everything from insects to AI, and "communication" includes all of the social sciences as well as communication devices and language itself.

      I fit many of th

  • We love you kshgoddess, please stay :)

    You described me fairly well as a geek guy (with a wife). Only thing is, I hate admitting that I broke something. I'd rather fix it so well that no one knew it broke in the first place ;)

    • As the topic was "It's funny. Laugh." I figured more people would take it as I intended, as a snide remark on the state of slashdot. :P

      I'm just using my experience of working with geeks (and living in a city of them) to promote the stereotype, and to let y'all know what I think of as a geek. When I say geek, this is what I mean. I don't mean the creepy too-interested-in-things people who live in their parents' basements and run, say, an anime club. :P

      Not that all anime clubs are lame, just the one or tw

    • Dry sense of humor: Yup. With a sarcastic edge, usually.
    • Fairly thorough knowledge of Monty Python: "Those of you who missed 8.45 on Friday will be able to see it again this Friday at a quarter to nine." British humor (humour?) in general seems to be a geek trait. Fawlty Towers, Blackadder, Red Dwarf, Hitchhiker's, Mr. Bean, etc.
    • Ability to gripe about everything, but still put up with general customer crap with what seems like a smile: That's a necessity! But I'm thankful I'm not in a regular customer-fac

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