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Comment Re: You miss my point (Score 1) 103

Which part of restorative justice do you not understand?

Step 1. Hindu temple existed for ages
Step 2. Barbaric Islamic invader built a mosque over it.
Step 3. Restorative justice, the Hinfu temple for restored

Let me dumb it down for you:
Corollary:
White Americans enslaved Africans.
Africal Americans like MLK Jr fought for their rights via the Civil Rights Movement.
Restorative Justice FTW

OR another example of deep injustice in our great American homeland . Why dont you introdpect first, find your own faults before fingerpointing at other cultures from your priveleged +ignorant armchair?

https://www.perplexity.ai/sear...

deep research british invaders killing native americans with small pox blankets

deep research british invaders killing native americans with small pox blankets

The British use of smallpox-infected blankets as a form of biological warfare against Native Americans is a historically documented but rare and controversial event. The most well-known and only clearly documented case occurred in 1763 during the Siege of Fort Pitt (present-day Pittsburgh). British officers, including Sir Jeffrey Amherst and Colonel Henry Bouquet, discussed and attempted to deliberately infect Native American tribes such as the Shawnee and Delaware (Lenape) by giving them blankets and a handkerchief contaminated with smallpox from the fortâ(TM)s hospital. This was intended to spread the disease among the besieging tribes to weaken them and relieve the fort[3][5][7][9][12].

William Trent, a trader at Fort Pitt, recorded in his journal that after failed negotiations, the British gave two blankets and a handkerchief from the smallpox hospital to Native emissaries, hoping it would have the desired effect of spreading smallpox[3][5][7][9]. Amherst explicitly encouraged using "every stratagem" to reduce the Native population, including infected blankets[7][12].

However, historians emphasize that this incident was exceptional rather than widespread. The broader devastation of Native American populations by smallpox was largely due to the conditions colonialism createdâ"war, displacement, and disruption of native societiesâ"which made indigenous peoples more vulnerable to epidemics[1][9]. There is no strong evidence that the British or other European colonizers systematically used smallpox blankets beyond this isolated 1763 event.

Some later claims, such as allegations of U.S. Army use of smallpox blankets in the 1830s, have been debunked or lack solid evidence[12]. The 1763 Fort Pitt incident remains the primary historical example of deliberate biological warfare with smallpox against Native Americans.

In summary:

- The British did attempt to use smallpox-infected blankets as a weapon once, in 1763 at Fort Pitt, as part of their conflict with Native tribes[3][5][7].
- This act was sanctioned by high-ranking officers like Amherst and Bouquet.
- The wider smallpox epidemics among Native Americans were mostly due to colonial disruption and disease spread, not systematic deliberate infection[1][9].
- The 1763 incident is considered the birth of modern biological warfare but was not a common tactic[5].
- Later claims of similar use are either unproven or false[12].

This event remains a dark chapter illustrating the brutal measures taken by colonial powers against indigenous peoples during their invasions and wars in North America.

Citations:
[1] Book details misconceptions about smallpox's role in Native ... https://news.ku.edu/news/artic...
[2] Smallpox: 1789 Biological warfare against First Nations https://nationalunitygovernmen...
[3] 1763â"64: Britain wages biological warfare with smallpox https://www.nlm.nih.gov/native...
[4] Smallpox in the New World: History, Victims, & Symptoms https://www.thecollector.com/s...
[5] Episode 28: Smallpox Blankets - Bedside Rounds http://bedside-rounds.org/epis...
[6] What Killed the Native Populations? - Dr Sam Bailey - Substack https://drsambailey.substack.c...
[7] Investigating the Smallpox Blanket Controversy https://asm.org/articles/2023/...
[8] Colonial Germ Warfare https://research.colonialwilli...
[9] Colonial warfare: Were smallpox-infected blankets given to Native Americans? https://geneticliteracyproject...
[10] Elizabeth Fenn: Pox Americana (excerpts, with renumbered footnotes) https://www.umass.edu/legal/de...
[11] âï British Colonial Smallpox Attack: A Dark Chapter in Native History https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
[12] Inside The Troubling History Of How Smallpox Blankets Were Intentionally Given To Indigenous Americans https://allthatsinteresting.co...
[13] Smallpox Blankets Given to Indigenous Peoples (1763) https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

 

Comment Re: BTW, India is 80%Hindu (also the seat of Yoga (Score 1) 103

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For 67 years (1752-1819 AD), the Afghans ruled over Kashmir & ensured it was the darkest period of Islamic oppression. The reign of terror forced Hindus to migrate, convert to Islam, or be ruthlessly killed. In the end, it's said only 11 Pandit families survived in Kashmir.
Asad Khan was the worst of the oppressors. He would tie up Kashmiri Pandits in grass sacks & drown them in Dal Lake in pairs. For amusement, a jar of excreta was placed on Pandit's head & Muslims pelted the jar with stones till it broke & the Hindu was blinded with filth.
The Pandits, who used to display moustaches proudly, were forced to grow beards. They were forbidden from wearing Turbans, shoes, or Tika (Tilaks) on their foreheads.
Later, Pandits wore exaggerated Tikas & overly long turbans in memory of the tyranny of Pathan times. During the Afghan rule, 'Jazia', the poll tax imposed on Hindus, was revived.
During these days, any Muslim who met a Pandit would jump on his back & take a ride, saying,â You are a Brahman & I will mount youâ. This horrifying phrase still survives as a Kashmiri saying.
  Atta Muhamad Khan & his army were sexual predators who used agents to hunt Brahman girls. So terrified were poor Hindus of their lust that they destroyed their daughterâ(TM)s beauty by shaving off their heads, cutting off their noses, or disfiguring them to escape from rape.
Kashmiri Pandit wedding customs bear testament to this cruel trauma. On the day of marriage, a male relative is decked out in the same fashion as the bridegroom, who is known as the Pot maharaja, because at any point the Pathans could seize the bridegroom & kidnap the bride.
Asad Khan was succeeded by Madad Khan, who was even more brutal. He bound Hindus in cow leather sacks before drowning them to ensure their faith was violated. They were killed at the same Batta Mazar (Graveyard of Pandits) on Dal Lake, where 37 Kg of Janeu were found.
No wonder the era of Afghan rule over Kashmir is known as a time of brutal tyranny motivated by Islamic fanaticism. Kashmiri Hindus had to suffer intolerable brutality & cruelty under the savage Pathans, who thought no more of cutting off heads than of plucking a flower.
Source:
The Valley of Kashmir - Walter R. Lawrence, Oxford University Press, 1893

Comment So called Saint Francis Xavier was a demon... (Score 1) 103

... who cut native Hindi/Indians hands off for not convering to Christianity. WTF Saints are suppised to heal people nit cut their freakin hands off for not believibg in JeBuz

deep research hathkatro khamb goa

**Hatkatro Khamb** (also spelled Hathkatro Khamb, meaning "Pillar of Severed Hands") is a significant and haunting historical monument located in Old Goa. It stands as a stark symbol of the **brutal persecution faced by Hindus during the Portuguese Goa Inquisition**[1][2][6].

### Historical Context

- The **Goa Inquisition** (1560â"1812) was a period marked by severe religious persecution, especially targeting Hindus who resisted conversion to Christianity[1][6].
- The Hatkatro Khamb is associated with the **public torture and mutilation** of Hindus who refused to convert. Victims, often including Konkan Brahmins, were allegedly tied to this pillar and had their hands severed as punishment[1][6].
- Many Hindus fled Goa to escape this violence, relocating to regions like Maharashtra and Karnataka[1][6].

### Physical Description and Origins

- The pillar itself is believed to be a **relic from the Kadamba era** (12thâ"13th century) and may have originally been part of a Hindu temple. The Portuguese, after destroying temples, repurposed such architectural elements for their own use[6].
- There is a **Hale Kannada inscription** on the pillar, reading "DAYADNYA" with the number four, linking it to its ancient origins[6].

### Legacy and Recognition

- Today, Hatkatro Khamb is seen as a **memorial to the suffering and resilience of Goan Hindus**[2][5][6].
- Despite its historical importance, the site has not been officially recognized as a protected heritage monument, partly due to urban development and bureaucratic challenges[5][7].
- Local and national organizations, such as the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti, have repeatedly demanded its preservation and recognition as a national monument, highlighting the need for proper documentation and public awareness[5][10].

### Controversy and Memory

- The pillar remains a **contentious symbol** in Goaâ(TM)s cultural memory, especially around the legacy of St. Francis Xavier, who is often associated with the Inquisition era, though some historians debate the extent of his direct involvement[1][3][6].
- The site is largely neglected, with little official information or heritage status, despite being a powerful reminder of a dark chapter in Goan and Indian history[5][7].

In summary, **Hatkatro Khamb is a powerful and under-recognized monument that embodies the traumatic history of forced conversions and violence against Hindus during the Portuguese rule in Goa**. Its preservation and public acknowledgment remain subjects of ongoing debate and activism[1][5][7].

Citations:
[1] Hatkatro Khamb: Hindu suffering under the Goa inquisition - Organiser https://organiser.org/2024/12/...
[2] Hath Kataro Khambh - Blood-stained history of Goa which no one ... https://www.nilus.in/Demo/Saty...
[3] This is the Hat Katro Khamb - Old Goa where thousands of Goans ... https://www.reddit.com/r/India...
[4] Old Goa where thousands of Goans hindus were killed during Goan ... https://www.instagram.com/reel...
[5] Declare âHaat Katro Khambâ(TM) memorial in Goa as heritage site and preserve it, demands HJS - Hindu Janajagruti Samiti https://www.hindujagruti.org/n...
[6] Hindus must remember Goaâ(TM)s âHatkatro Khaambâ(TM) on Christmas and New Year. https://hinduexistence.org/202...
[7] Buffer zone a hurdle for Hath Katro Khambâ(TM)s âprotected siteâ(TM) bid - Times of India https://timesofindia.indiatime...
[8] Old Goa where thousands of Goans hindus were killed during Goan ... https://www.instagram.com/reel...
[9] Hatkatro Khaamb: A Lone Pillar That Stands Witness To Horrors of ... https://www.scribd.com/documen...
[10] Declare the â Hatkatro Khamb â(TM) in Goa as a National Monument ! - Hindu Janajagruti Samiti https://www.hindujagruti.org/h...
deep research hathkatro khamb goa

**Hatkatro Khamb** (also spelled Hathkatro Khamb, meaning "Pillar of Severed Hands") is a significant and haunting historical monument located in Old Goa. It stands as a stark symbol of the **brutal persecution faced by Hindus during the Portuguese Goa Inquisition**[1][2][6].

### Historical Context

- The **Goa Inquisition** (1560â"1812) was a period marked by severe religious persecution, especially targeting Hindus who resisted conversion to Christianity[1][6].
- The Hatkatro Khamb is associated with the **public torture and mutilation** of Hindus who refused to convert. Victims, often including Konkan Brahmins, were allegedly tied to this pillar and had their hands severed as punishment[1][6].
- Many Hindus fled Goa to escape this violence, relocating to regions like Maharashtra and Karnataka[1][6].

### Physical Description and Origins

- The pillar itself is believed to be a **relic from the Kadamba era** (12thâ"13th century) and may have originally been part of a Hindu temple. The Portuguese, after destroying temples, repurposed such architectural elements for their own use[6].
- There is a **Hale Kannada inscription** on the pillar, reading "DAYADNYA" with the number four, linking it to its ancient origins[6].

### Legacy and Recognition

- Today, Hatkatro Khamb is seen as a **memorial to the suffering and resilience of Goan Hindus**[2][5][6].
- Despite its historical importance, the site has not been officially recognized as a protected heritage monument, partly due to urban development and bureaucratic challenges[5][7].
- Local and national organizations, such as the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti, have repeatedly demanded its preservation and recognition as a national monument, highlighting the need for proper documentation and public awareness[5][10].

### Controversy and Memory

- The pillar remains a **contentious symbol** in Goaâ(TM)s cultural memory, especially around the legacy of St. Francis Xavier, who is often associated with the Inquisition era, though some historians debate the extent of his direct involvement[1][3][6].
- The site is largely neglected, with little official information or heritage status, despite being a powerful reminder of a dark chapter in Goan and Indian history[5][7].

In summary, **Hatkatro Khamb is a powerful and under-recognized monument that embodies the traumatic history of forced conversions and violence against Hindus during the Portuguese rule in Goa**. Its preservation and public acknowledgment remain subjects of ongoing debate and activism[1][5][7].

Citations:
[1] Hatkatro Khamb: Hindu suffering under the Goa inquisition - Organiser https://organiser.org/2024/12/...
[2] Hath Kataro Khambh - Blood-stained history of Goa which no one ... https://www.nilus.in/Demo/Saty...
[3] This is the Hat Katro Khamb - Old Goa where thousands of Goans ... https://www.reddit.com/r/India...
[4] Old Goa where thousands of Goans hindus were killed during Goan ... https://www.instagram.com/reel...
[5] Declare âHaat Katro Khambâ(TM) memorial in Goa as heritage site and preserve it, demands HJS - Hindu Janajagruti Samiti https://www.hindujagruti.org/n...
[6] Hindus must remember Goaâ(TM)s âHatkatro Khaambâ(TM) on Christmas and New Year. https://hinduexistence.org/202...
[7] Buffer zone a hurdle for Hath Katro Khambâ(TM)s âprotected siteâ(TM) bid - Times of India https://timesofindia.indiatime...
[8] Old Goa where thousands of Goans hindus were killed during Goan ... https://www.instagram.com/reel...
[9] Hatkatro Khaamb: A Lone Pillar That Stands Witness To Horrors of ... https://www.scribd.com/documen...
[10] Declare the â Hatkatro Khamb â(TM) in Goa as a National Monument ! - Hindu Janajagruti Samiti https://www.hindujagruti.org/h...

Comment Re: I repeat (Score 1) 103

you may also find this eye opening

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=...

Hindu and Catholic, Priest and Scholar: A Love Story
On October 1, 2024, HDS hosted a celebration of "Hindu and Catholic, Priest and Scholar: A Love Story," the new memoir from HDS Professor Francis X. Clooney, S.J. Joining Prof. Clooney on a panel of respondents were: Rajeev Persaud, MTS â(TM)24, Andrea Bischoff, MTS â(TM)24, and Jonathan Makransky, multireligious ministry initiatives coordinator at HDS. The event was introduced by Kerry Maloney, Chaplain and Director of Religious and Spiritual Life.

Sponsored by the Office of the Chaplain and Religious and Spiritual Life and by the Office of Ministry Studies.

Transcript:
https://www.hds.harvard.edu/ne...

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