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Comment Re:Some payback... (Score 1) 340

OK, I agree with what you say, but there are a couple of points:

If Turing had not been around - or if Enigma had never been broken - the war would have been longer, but the Allies would not have lost. According to David Kahn in "Seizing the Enigma" the increased shipping losses could have delayed D-Day until 1945. So, three months after the invasion in June 1945, the USAAF would have dropped an atomic bomb on, say, Hamburg, then another one on Dusseldorf, then the Germans would have surrendered.

The success against Enigma meant:

Fewer dead Allied sailors;

Fewer dead German civilians;
Fewer dead Jews, communists, Gypsies, etc. since the Final Solution was disrupted and delayed by the advancing Allied and Russian armies in 1944-5.

Second, you claim that only bigotry made the British think of homosexuals as a security risk. In fact, the most damaging spies in British history, the "Cambridge Ring" - Burgess, Maclean, Blunt, Cairncross and most of all Kim Philby - were all homosexual.

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