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Comment Re:Wait, You stayed logged into Gmail (Score 2) 210

Just had to do some experimenting...it's using OpenID and yes, it tells you it wants access to your contacts (of course...that's why you'd have opted to do that, right?) BUT the UI is very misleading--it's easy to send invites you didn't mean to send in that initial session, and worse, there's nothing that would suggest to users that if you give LinkedIn access in this way ONCE, it will continue to have access until you revoke its access in Google.

Comment Re:99% sure I can explain what happened here (Score 1) 210

Okay...more testing.

It's using OpenID to sign into Gmail when you give it a new email address (which I just did...to a Gmail account I use rarely and has only one contact I just planted in there). So it's actually launching a window to Google where you type your username and password. Then you're told LinkedIn would like to "view your email address" and "manage your contacts" (still by Google). Hit accept and...it's still showing me my contacts from my original Gmail account. Clearly I need to revoke LinkedIn's permissions there.

So really, the problem is that LinkedIn leads you to believe that it's only looking at your address book during that one event when you're guiding the process, when actually you're giving it permissions via OpenID. (My bad for not remembering/realizing that...did I mention I was also watching TV?...but at least I know what's going on now. And it never occurred to me that I needed to revoke their access to my contacts--I was dealing with the immediate fallout of LinkedIn-spamming a whole lot of people.)

I'm going to monitor the contact email I planted to see whether they ever send anything to it.

Comment Re:99% sure I can explain what happened here (Score 1) 210

This was well over a year ago--that was my recollection but it may in fact be wrong. (In fact, now I think it was--more on that in a second.) There is an explicit "we're not storing your password" statement...and in fact now I think I never did provide my password. (I guarantee if I did, I changed it immediately after.)

I just clicked the current "Connect with Gmail" link simply to see what language they use--was NOT going to give it my password but my email address is autofilled. Lo and behold, on the next screen MY CONTACTS ARE SHOWING UP. WTF?

Next step in experiment...opened LinkedIn and logged in using Chrome Incognito mode...click Connect with Gmail--again, CONTACTS SHOWING UP. I did have an open Gmail window in Chrome (not Incognito) so logged out of that and repeat with LinkedIn. *STILL* see the contacts.

I'm actually going to experiment more with this to figure out what they're doing, but this is far worse than I thought.

Comment 99% sure I can explain what happened here (Score 5, Interesting) 210

This is a case of confusing UI defaults, I think, but given that *I* also got caught by it (and was mortified), even though LinkedIn isn't "hacking" anybody, I don't have a lot of sympathy for them (LinkedIn--have enormous sympathy with the users, even though I suspect their case won't stand up in court).

Here's what I think happened to me (as best I can remember...I'm not about to try to reproduce it): Yeah, sure, look for my contacts (provide Gmail username/password...all assurances are given they won't email anyone without your permission blah blah). LinkedIn shows you a list of a few dozen (IIRC) contacts in a frame (possibly those you most recently exchanged email with?); I deselected all of those and then carefully went through and selected a very small subset I actually wanted to "connect to." Once I've done that, I hit submit (or whatever) and get some confirmation, "We're going to send the invite, okay?" Yeah, sure...it's only sending to a few people, right? SOMEWHERE on that confirmation (again, IIRC) is a checkbox that alludes to the fact that, oh? All the contacts you DIDN'T unselect--IN YOUR ENTIRE CONTACTS LIST--are gonna get an email. Got to the next screen and it said something like "200 emails sent" and the expletives flew. (I can see missing that message...it was small.) Of course I was doing this process while I was watching TV or something--it didn't have my full attention--but the behavior was SO counter to my expectations of opting-in I was floored.

I can see why users would think LinkedIn "stole their contacts when their email was left open"--they're thinking that subset-selecting frame is the only time LinkedIn is (transparently) accessing their account (and therefore shouldn't do anything with contacts that don't appear in that frame, which makes sense in terms of user expectation).
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Google Engineer Sponsors New Kinect Bounties 96

ashidosan writes "Hot on the heels of the Adafruit competition, Matt Cutts (a search spam engineer at Google) is sponsoring two more $1,000 bounties for projects using Kinect. 'The first $1,000 prize goes to the person or team that writes the coolest open-source app, demo, or program using the Kinect. The second prize goes to the person or team that does the most to make it easy to write programs that use the Kinect on Linux.'" Relatedly, reader imamac points out a video showing Kinect operating on OS X.
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Physicists Discover Universal "Wet-Dog Shake" Rule 97

Dog owners can sleep easy tonight because physicists have discovered how rapidly a wet dog should oscillate its body to dry its fur. Presumably, dogs already know. From the article: "Today we have an answer thanks to the pioneering work of Andrew Dickerson at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta and a few buddies. But more than that, their work generates an interesting new conundrum about the nature of shaken fur dynamics. Dickerson and co filmed a number of dogs shaking their fur and used the images to measure the period of oscillation of the dogs' skin. For a labrador retriever, this turns out to be 4.3 Hz."
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White House Correspondent Tweets His Heart Attack 77

Tommy Christopher, who writes for mediate.com, has reporting in his blood, so much so that he livetweeted every part of his recent heart attack. "I gotta be me. Livetweeting my heart attack. Beat that!" and "This is not like the movies. Most deadpan heart attack evar. Still hurts even after the morphine," were among his updates as he was rushed to the hospital. Christopher is now in stable condition after recovering from emergency surgery.
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Woman Wins Libel Suit By Suing Wrong Website 323

An anonymous reader writes "It appears that Cincinnati Bengals cheerleader Sarah Jones and her lawyer were so upset by a comment on the site TheDirty.com that they missed the 'y' at the end of the name. Instead, they sued the owner of TheDirt.com, whose owner didn't respond to the lawsuit. The end result was a judge awarding $11 million, in part because of the failure to respond. Now, both the owners of TheDirty.com and TheDirt.com are complaining that they're being wrongfully written about in the press — one for not having had any content about Sarah Jones but being told it needs to pay $11 million, and the other for having the content and having the press say it lost a lawsuit, even though no lawsuit was ever actually filed against it."
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Valve Trademarks 'DOTA' 141

An anonymous reader tips news that Valve Software has filed a trademark claim for the term "DOTA," fueling speculation that the company will soon reveal a new Defense of the Ancients game. Voice actor John St. John recently said he was recording for such a game in a post to Twitter. The tweet was subsequently deleted. Last year Valve hired 'Icefrog,' lead developer for the original DotA mod.
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Doctors Seeing a Rise In "Google-itis" 368

It's one of the fastest-growing health issues that doctors now face: "Google-itis." Everyone from concerned mothers to businessmen on their lunch break are typing in symptoms and coming up with rare diseases or just plain wrong information. Many doctors are bringing computers into examination rooms now so they can search along with patients to alleviate their fears. "I'm not looking for a relationship where the patient accepts my word as the gospel truth," says Dr. James Valek. "I just feel the Internet brings so much misinformation to the (exam) room that we have to fight through all that before we can get to the problem at hand."

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