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Submission + - Projects For Humanity: Applying Kickstarter Principals to Human Endevours (

JordanL writes: "This website has two purposes: (1) To create a list of huge projects which would challenge our entire species in their accomplishment, and the cost of these projects in United States Dollars. (2) To allow people to give mock pledges which illustrate how long it would take to fund any given project. This allows people to read through a project's description and say to themselves, "Sure, if humans were planning on doing this, I would give $10 per month to help make it happen.""

Comment Re:This just makes sense (Score 1) 1345

If that's true, a valuable part of your investigation should probably be how they interpret it as well, since it helps you understand the impact that such an example serves to that person.

Morals are almost entirely subjective. Ethics are the ones that we consider to be a social standard. :)

It's my opinion that figuring out if they are "being moral" can only be done within the context of a story, as a story encapsulates the morals of the culture or person who recorded the story. I do believe that a quite lively debate about if they are "being ethical" could be had however.

Comment Re:This just makes sense (Score 1) 1345

No, I was not claiming other interpretations of the story were wrong, I was claiming that my interpretation was just AS valid, and that believing there are not multiple valid interpretations is wrong. The original post that I made was essentially to explain that the person I was replying to was completely wrong in asserting that his interpretation was the only valid one, and I did that in part by presenting another valid interpretation.

Comment Re:This just makes sense (Score 1) 1345

Unfortunately, my database needs are much too intense for a shared server. :) I peg my DB limits almost instantly.

I'll get it back up sometime soon.

My point was that, being a person who believes the characters to be fictional, you should be interpreting the story for yourself, or you should not care. Basically... why bother spending effort and time arguing about how ethical a fictional character is, instead of trying to find an interpretation of the story itself that makes sense to you?

Comment Re:This just makes sense (Score 1) 1345

All stories have value. This one particularly so because of its historical impact. I think you were trying to say that it has no net positive value, which is an opinion that you are free to hold. I suppose thinking people who disagree with you are stupid/crazy is also an opinion you are free to hold, but it's not very logical, reasonable, or productive.

Suggesting that it has no value is not only disingenuous, it is willfully ignorant. You cannot possibly believe that to be a true statement, other than by convincing yourself of its truth through decision. More than a billion people believe in that story. Most of them don't go around murdering people because the voice in the sky told them to. Clearly it has a value, and just because you do not see it does not mean it's there.

Comment Re:This just makes sense (Score 1) 1345

Then this story served its function. You disagree at a core level with the historical and literal accuracy, so it has helped you further understand what the things are that you do believe in.

You have belief... in yourself, in your morals clearly. Stories like these are what let you test your beliefs against a backdrop, and discover what the limits of your belief are. You don't believe in the idea that any person should ever truly believe in the ethics of another person... or rather, that no one can provide you better ethics than yourself. That's a great thing to know about yourself. Religion is not necessary for that at all... but it can certainly be useful for it to some people.

Comment Re:This just makes sense (Score 1) 1345

That is all that spirituality and religion are. Seeking definition for your own experiences.

The story of Abraham isn't one that I particularly care about when it comes to belief. I trust my experiences, when it comes to my own belief. I was illustrating what the context and social structures of the story are about, but none of that should be taken to mean I believe in the story itself.

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