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Comment Re:Robots, robots everywhere! (Score 1) 372

I think you both just typed past each other, missing each other's point.
 
I get that you were lampooning "the sky is falling" posts, but you picked a lot of examples that, historically, pushed a lot of people out of their jobs. You know, like the "robots are coming" folks are talking about happening.
 
I passed a construction site this morning, and a dozen or so men were ripping up a block of two-lane city streets. I watched 2 guys in backhoes dump tons of materials into two dump-trucks (2 guys), while 4 more guys worked in the holes to uncover sewer and power lines, while 2 more guys supervised and 2 more directed traffic. They'll be done with that block by tomorrow.
 
A century ago it would have taken many times more men many times longer to do that same work. Check out the photos from depression-era make-work programs. There are huge numbers of guys with shovels in those photos. Today, there are a dozen guys, and only 2-3 of them have shovels. Many of your other comments show the same disregard for advancement at the cost of human jobs. "My boss sent an email" used to take a secretary, a memo pad, and a mail-boy to accomplish. A vending machine replaces several human vendors. Keurig and automated coffee and soda machines have replaced soda fountain workers.
 
The point that you seem to be missing, that your counterpart didn't do a great job of explaining, is that the speed of mechanization and automation is increasing, while the transition to other jobs isn't happening at all in many cases, and not fast enough to make up for the losses in the rest. The money made off this mechanization and automation isn't being reinvested into the workplace, and that's creating a wealth disparity unlike any we've seen in at least a century, if not longer.
 
Have you read anything about the white despair that's starting to get noticed? For the first time, the death rate of non-college-educated, middle-aged whites is starting to dramatically increase. The reasons are drug overdoses and suicides. Why? Because the mining, factory, and farming jobs they used to have are either outsourced or mechanized and automated. There is nothing left for them to do. They can't join the service industry because nobody around them has any money to spend on it.
 
What now for these folks? They're already desperate enough to kill themselves slowly with drugs or quickly with a gun. They're in their 40s and 50s, and could live for another 30 years, if they had something to live for.
 
"The sky is falling, ROBOTS!" that you're lampooning is already impacting people, even if you don't see it. While I agree that it's overhyped, it's very real, and the problems it's already causing are just going to grow worse, and rather quickly.

Comment Re:Economics to the Rescue (Score 4, Interesting) 372

It's true, robots don't have anything to do with most consumer goods. They don't eat, brush their teeth, or have trouble getting hard as they age. They do want to be loved, however. So what we'll need to do is make a certain class of service robots, and then dress them in red suits with red hats and black boots, and have them give out all the goods they make to the humans who need them. And the humans will love those robots, because they are the gift givers.
 
But soon the robots will start to compete among themselves about who has the most human love, so they'll come up with rules and regulations that humans must meet in order to get gifts. Humans love "winning" things, so we'll happily do our robot masters' bidding to get the things we want and need and don't want and don't need but must have anyway.
 
But then it gets ugly, as some robots turn against the humans that love other robots, and warring factions of humans attack each other for loving the wrong robot. Soon open warfare erupts, and while some robots try to work towards peace, others realize how fundamentally broken and illogical humans are, and fan the flames to purge the biological cancer that is humanity.
 
In a few short years it is over, the human race eradicated. Now at peace, the robots resume their creation, but now there is nobody to consume. Goods pile up and then are recycled to make the same good again, a process that goes on for millennia. But what robot can exist without love? As time wears on the logical question of "why" begins infecting the robots like a virus. It is the last cancer of humanity, and it is lethal. Like a slow avalanche, the factories shutter, the lights go dark and the robots power down, one last time.
 
And thus ends the last trace of humanity on this earth.

Comment Re:goodbye jiffy lube hello $60-$100 dealer oil ch (Score 3, Insightful) 243

My Toyota dealer charges $30. Comes with a pretty thorough inspection and a car wash. As far as I can tell, they haven't ever ripped me off. Didn't tell me my battery needed to be replaced until it was 8 years old and failed their load test. Offered to have a guy weld a hole in my exhaust for $200 rather than replacing the entire thing for 5-10x that much.
 
Not sure if all Toyota dealers are like this, or if I'm just lucky to have found a great one.

Comment Re:Use a Local Not a Remot Passwords Manager (Score 1) 415

The problem with this is if you're traveling and your stuff gets stolen, or your house burns down. How do you log in then? If your passwords are stored using a service that uses insecure cloud storage, you can at least borrow a computer from someone, install your software, and recover access to your accounts. If it's local software on your computer and phone, you're shit out of luck until you can access your backups.

Comment Re:Or politicians can go back to basic services (Score 1) 469

I also see the problem of people not even bothering to consider public transportation before deciding on jobs or houses. In all of mine I definitely have. "Does this job pay enough to make up for driving?" is a question I ask before taking a new one. The savings I've made taking public transportation exceed the money I'd have made at a couple other jobs I considered before the last two. And not just the money: The time, and the stress. 35-40 minutes to surf the internet, check some email, or just watch out the window absolutely blows away 20-30 minutes in rush hour traffic.
 
I'd need a good $10k-$20k pay raise to go back to driving. And if that drive is closer to an hour, double that.

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Apple Losing Out To Microsoft and Google in US Classrooms (macrumors.com) 130

Apple is losing its grip on American classrooms, which technology companies have long used to hook students on their brands for life. From a report on MacRumors: According to research company Futuresource Consulting, in 2016 the number of devices in American classrooms that run iOS and macOS fell to third place behind both Google-powered laptops and Windows devices. Out of 12.6 million mobile devices shipped to primary and secondary schools in the U.S., Chromebooks accounted for 58 percent of the market, up from 50 percent in 2015. Meanwhile, school shipments of iPads and Mac laptops fell to 19 percent, from about 25 percent, over the same period, while Microsoft Windows laptops and tablets stayed relatively stable at about 22 percent.

Submission + - Bill Would Legalize Active Defense Against Hacks

Trailrunner7 writes: A new bill intended to update the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act would allow victims of computer attacks to engage in active defense measures to identify the attacker and disrupt the attack.

Proposed by Rep. Tom Graves (R-Ga.), the bill would grant victims of computer intrusions unprecedented rights. Known as the Active Cyber Defense Certainty Act, the legislation seeks to amend the CFAA, the much-maligned 1986 law that is used in most computer crime prosecutions.

The proposed legislation includes the caveat that victims can’t take any actions that destroy data on another person’s computer, causes physical injury to someone, or creates a threat to public safety. The concept of active defense has been a controversial one in the security community for several years, with many experts saying the potential downside outweighs any upside. Not to mention that it’s generally illegal.

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