Castillo de San Marcos - Built at Sea Level in 1672.

Castillo de San Marcos - Still at Sea Level in 2025.

How is this of any significance to humanity? Seems like a weird way to waste both time and money.

Now all my crappy code will crash much faster. ;)

I made my chat font Comic Sans because I think it's funny that the "Supreme Allied Linux Commander" for our organization (me) uses Comic Sans on Skype For Business. Keeps 'em on their toes.

But Brave Browser has no problem blocking them.

The rules still require that local authorities designate suitable areas for building wind farms before an application can be made.

That sounds fine, except that it requires the planning departments to do something, and they are underfunded and overworked, so it's unlikely to happen.

That makes the prospect of building windfarms deeply uncertain, which makes it difficult for those that want to build them to raise funds, which means that they're less likely to start the lengthy application process, with the end result that no more windfarms are likely to be built as a result of this change.

So what is the reason for the change?

It seems that it's solely aimed at stopping a government rebellion

The point of advertising is to generate demand (want). The more you can influence people to want your product, the more of your product you're going to sell.

https://joinpeertube.org/

Free Software, self-hostable, and uses peer-to-peer between viewers, so scales with popularity.

I bought $1000USD of Doge back when it took 12 of them to make a single penny just to have fun with on IRC. We set up a doge wallet bot and used tipping in Doge as a way to encourage productive/constructive comments and contributions to our little channel, as well as educating people about crypto. I ended up giving away at least half of the Doges to various channel dwellers just for the fun of it. (Using random soaks & tips of 100 doge here & there.)

Fast forward to now it's around .13c per doge and the coin I so liberally threw around like confetti actually has some value. It feels really good to have contributed in a positive way to crypto-currency awareness and to see those contributions actually have value.

I still have quite a bit of Doge left and it has oddly turned out to be one of the most entertaining & enjoyable successful investments I've made.

TO THE MOON!

Originally SPI was created because Debian doesn't really have a legal existence in its own right. (In many ways it's just a bunch of mailing lists, and the contents of some servers etc. so it doesn't get to do things like open a bank account).

SPI could easily have been called something like The Debian Foundation, but rather than having something that was exclusively for Debian, it made more sense to allow other Free Software projects to also take advantage of the admin services it offers.

That being the case, you're right that Debian itself doesn't have any money, largely becaase it's not the sort of thing that can own things.
There are however funds held on its behalf by several Trusted Organisations, of which SPI is one.

Since Framasoft is based in France, the donation was paid from funds held by Debian France.

Since Debian folk hold quite a lot of small, local events, this _will_ directly benefit people within Debian (especially in times of Covid-19) -- the idea was greeted with overwhelming support from within Debian.

Debian doesn't actually have that many things to spend money on, and despite not really soliciting donations, generally accumulates more than we spend year on year. A lot of the things you might expect Debian to spend money on get donated, and thus cost us nothing, and end up being something where spending money in that area runs the risk of upsetting our existing sponsors (since we'd likely be paying their competition for something they are currently donating to us) and thus doing so might actually result in reducing the relevant resource available to the project.

In short, your assumptions about how Debian works are faulty. Hardly surpriing though really: Debian is clearly impossible ;-)

In fact, it wasn't very hard to imagine then, and it's even less hard now that we've had 6 years to find out what happend next.

Astonishingly, the people you seem to think were going to cause Debian's iminent destruction are still around, and Debian is too.

Bruce,

OK, so that's fair enough, but is there any real reason for Devuan to behave as anything other than a normal Debian derivative?

When they were trying to "eradicate every last work by Mr. Pottering", including libsystemd0, that wasn't going to work, since Debian doesn't really have a workable way to have two versions of the same package, differently linked (well, not without an explosion of foo-without-libsystemd packages, which wasn't going to get past the ftpmasters).

Now that they seem to have rowed back a little from that position, it seems like the main thing is the maintenance of alternative packages, and the testing of the coherent whole, both of which could be pushed upstream to some extent.

If all the packages could be pushed upstream, then Devuan might even be able to be a Debian Blend, or perhaps even a Debian Pure Blend, which would then allow them to release in a timely manner. Even without that, I'm sure that there are Debian users that would appreciate the option of using the main components like eudev.

Looking for evidence of attempts to package eudev for Debian, this is about it as far as I can see:

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi...
and
    https://lists.debian.org/debia...

neither of which have gone anywhere since.

Given that the packages now exist, it ought to be pretty trivial to upload them to Debian. That is likely to attract more people to use them, resulting in more effort being available to keep them maintained in future, so everyone wins.

If there's some reason that they cannot be uploaded to Debian in their current state, then it would be helpful to have the ITP ( https://wiki.debian.org/ITP ) in the BTS ( https://wiki.debian.org/BTS ), with blockers being described, providing somewhere to discuss how to address that situation.

Cheers, Phil.

Hi Bruce,

Are you under the impression that Debian does not offer a choice of inits?

If so, you are mistaken.

If you think that you'd have been better off with some other init, why did you not just install another init?

I think it's a bit of a shame that so many people interpret the existence of Devuan as an assertion that Debian has somehow forced systemd upon our users, whereas in fact a lot of effort has been spent on making sure that systemd is just a default that can be easily overridden by installing an alternative init. This is particularly unjust because most of the effort required was provided by the maintainers of the systemd package, so they did the work to allow people to use other inits, which was pretty selfless of them, and meanwhile they get all the grief from people complaining (wrongly) about being forced to use systemd.

Cheers, Phil.