What I expect is intelligent conversation. I have no problem being proven wrong with any assertion. I welcome it. But, we can do this by raising questions and providing answers. Someone who feels the need to invoke some sort of arbitrary attack on a person is not adding intelligent conversation.

I've heard some good points raised. Those good points can be further pursued, but only if we can discuss things like intelligent adults.

You seem to feel that those who raise questions on vaccinations are automatically in a category of people not worth talking to. Can you explain how you feel that an RNA vaccine is perfectly safe and has zero chance of causing side effects?

Do you have data to back this up? I don't necessarily disagree. It was one thought I had. But, unless we ask questions like this, we don't really know, do we? How much glyphosate does a developing baby get and from what sources, and how does this vary over the 9 months? These are good questions.

I'd also add to this what is the role of the microbiome during the 9 months of development, since the greatest impact of glyphosate is to our microbiome.

"read on facebook" sounds like a good rebuttal to someone who just woke up after being in a coma. But, this is 2020 where we have many online broadcasters that use Facebook, Youtube and other social media to publish their content. Even the mainstream media is doing it now. It's just a publishing platform. You can't discredit information because of how it is disseminated.

I cut the cable in 2005, meaning 100% of all my video news, documentaries and live events have been through the Internet. Facebook has really risen in recent years as a major publishing network for both live and archived video. That's just a technical reality that has no bearing on the value of information. In 2020, 100% of my viewing of congressional committee hearings as well as state level hearings has been through Facebook or YouTube, with nearly 100% being from FB.

They were theorizing on how the glyphosate got in the vaccines. Their theory is as non-conspiratorial as it could get. They don't suspect that the vaccine makers intentionally put it in there.

Do you have a better theory than ingredients coming from GMO agriculture sprayed with Roundup? I'd love to hear it. I'm trying to learn and understand the truth. Knocking something with points like the interview of the doctor being in a Facebook video of an online broadcaster doesn't help to identify any new information that can shed light on why glyphosate is in vaccines.

Thank you for not posting as an anonymous coward like one person has done a lot of in this discussion.

I don't care if the devil himself brings up a good point, so long as it raises valid questions we can consider. Pointing to a source you don't like does not change the questions they raise. Questions are questions. Critical thinkers ponder all questions from ALL sources.

People concerned about the health of their children are "conspiracy theorists"? Can you define a "conspiracy theorist"?

Their concern was use in pregnant women. How on earth does anyone know "safe levels" for a developing baby in a womb?

The virus obviously t thinks that Vietnam is one big Walmart.

A) What conspiracy are you referring to? I don't remember mentioning a conspiracy.

B) How was the "study" of glyphosate in vaccines flawed? They simply measured the quantity of glyphosate in each of 5 vaccines. They clearly didn't believe the vaccine makers intentionally added it -- thus no conspiracy. They theorized it came from some GMO ingredients. They didn't elaborate on why they thought they were in GMO ingredients when I heard a doctor speak on it, so I can only suspect that since the Monsanto GMO seeds are engineered to be resistant to glyphosate, the herbicide in Roundup, that they are often highly sprayed with Roundup, which will definitely leave glyphosate in the final product. That's a well known fact resulting in glyphosate being in a lot of our food supply.

If you want to learn how glyphosate impacts human health, check out Zach Bush MD. His lab has made some incredible discoveries of the impact which he discusses in his videos.

https://zachbushmd.com/

People use "conspiracy theorist" to mean "I don't have anything intelligent to say, so I'm just going to label you a 'conspiracy theorist' because it makes me sound like I'm superior even though you haven't once referred to a 'conspiracy' of two or more people."

The point was that the article never once mentioned safety. That point still stands.

I simply gave examples of concerns people have regarding safety. You can choose to ignore people's concerns, or you can discuss them objectively and openly. Instead, you raise any scrutiny of a "consensus narrative" on /. today, and you now get labeled a troll instead of having an open discussion.

/. has gone completely downhill. I have been pointing people to it since 1999 as a place for good news and objective discussion. I'll never again refer a soul to this site. Where is Cowboy Neal when you need him. :)

Part of what I said got morphed by HTML. Here is correction:

[auto-immune] is one of the 10 leading causes of death in women aged <65 years. It is also the fourth largest cause of disability in women. At least 15 diseases result directly from an autoimmune response, and >80 conditions are associated with autoimmunity.

Wish /. would upgrade to markdown.

Never said vaccines cause Lupus. What I said was:

"We have had a huge spike in auto-immune disease without understanding why. No one knows the cause or cure for Lupus. "

The point is that we should learn about current auto-immune disease, including causes, before we profess to know how to tinker with the immune system. We have a lot of diseases on the rise, such as auto-immune. We should make it a TOP PRIORITY to understand why auto-immune disorders are increasing.

The third most common disease category, after cancer and heart disease, is autoimmune disease (AD), affecting 5% to 8% of the U.S. population. Autoimmunity is the second highest underlying cause of >100 serious chronic illnesses, with >50 million Americans possessing at least one serious chronic illness. The National Institutes of Health’s (NIH) Office of Research on Women’s Health has declared autoimmune disease to be a major women’s health issue because it is one of the 10 leading causes of death in women aged 80 conditions are associated with autoimmunity.

As long as causes are unknown, we have no idea what things we are doing that we think are "safe" that are causing these diseases. Not knowing that A causes B does not make A safe. Until we know what causes B, there are a lot of unsafe we just don't know are unsafe, yet.

https://childrenshealthdefense...

Glyphosate in vaccines via GMOs:

https://www.facebook.com/40903...