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Comment Re: My daily dose of confirmation Bias (Score 1) 101

I'm glad you recognize the confirmation bias, yet I would dispute that it is in any way vindicated. AI did not order the interception, put the assets in the air, or even submit the report. It got a manifest wrong in a chat session (not clear even it was its own error or related to the input), and that is... actually well-within common human error, not some special AI thing.

This doesn't contradict the OP's point in any way. The fact that AI came up with something that doesn't correspont to reality is not the point, it is well known that AI does that. That's not the concerning thing here. The fact that the US military was prepared to take a hostile military action because it believed an AI hallucination is the concerning thing here. When you're making decisions that can literally cost a lot of people their lives, you cannot include a so-called 'intelligence' that doesn't understand anything it's saying in the decision making process. And maybe there was no chance of an actual war but boarding other nation's ships for absolutely no reason can damage diplomatic relations, not just with China but with any other nation that has ships in the region that could potentially be boarded on such an unreasonable basis. Assuming this is something the current administration wants to avoid.

In fact intelligence is wrong all the time, and at all scales, but to name a big one, was AI to blame for the confidence of the existence of WMDs that was the basis for the Iraq war? Maybe it would have *averted* that war by helping with better assessment.

Given that it was certainly an excuse for rather than a reason for that war, no, it wouldn't, but that has nothing to do with AI.

And it's not even clear to me that anything wrong was done. They double checked the intelligence, found it was incorrect, and ultimately took no action. Isn't that... exactly what is supposed to happen?

That's one (and the most charitable) interpretation of what happened. It may have all been a part of the process, or someone may have intervened at the last minute to stop this.

Deploying your interdiction parallel to the intelligence check is a reasonable way to ensure a successful timeline in case something does need to be done. It's easy to recall planes in a false positive, not so easy to teleport them where they need to be for a verified true positive

As in, we're not sure if this building really has terrorists/enemy combatants in it, but let's bomb it a bit anyway and then later we'll figure out if the intelligence was good? That would explain some past incidents. Even in this case, what if they started the interception/boarding before getting the confirmation? What if they weren't even waiting for confirmation and were preparing to board before the abort order came through? And you might say, they're the US military, they wouldn't fuck up like that. Given that they're using ChatGPT in making military decisions, the kind of thing that gets lawyers held in contempt of court, I'm not so sure. If you're making decisions based on something as untrustworthy as AI, which you know may well have made the whole thing up, then one, you absolutely shouldn't do that, but two, you should at the very least always double-check before taking any action.

Comment Re:Goal (Score 1) 33

It's extremely naive to think Anthropic wants the slowdown of AI research out of some sort of social conscience. To begin with, AI companies have shown time and again that they don't have any. This is a desperate attempt to do two things. First, to try and freeze the AI landscape while their models still have some advantage over the competitors, mainly to stop the Chinese from doing the Chinese thing of reverse-engineering Western technology and then trying to improve on it or at least selling cheaper versions. Second, and maybe more important, is to sell the idea that AI continues to significantly improve and will continue to improve at the same high rate, to the point where it eventually becomes dangerous. In reality any actual recent technological improvements have been very small and incremental and most AI improvements came either from people figuring out how to use the existing technology better or from the same technology being deployed at greater scale.

If the goal is to stop AI from doing evil stuff, then theoretically you would need more AI research into how to put better guardrails into AI. Except by now it's become extremely obvious that people will always find ways round any guardrails. Also if the supposed goal is to stop AI from hacking websites, then stopping or slowing down research would be shutting the stable door long after the horse has bolted. We know quite well that most website code on the internet is chock full of vulnerabilities and does not require any sort of superhuman intelligence to hack. AI with its current capabilities is already more than enough for the task. Also, I understand that AI agents doing similar things to what's described in this story are increasingly being used as white hat hackers, in order to find vulnerabilities and fix them.

Comment Re:We all know the real reason (Score 1) 118

Yes, they know that in the minds of the people they're trying to sell it to, i.e. upper management all the warnings about the AI being dangerous will translate to 'it's powerful and can make us a lot of money'. At the same time it may make them sound caring and responsible to the larger populace, assuming anyone believes them, but particularly gullible people still might. Also, they can say that the progress of their AI stalled because they're trying to avoid it's dangers and totally not because they don't know how to improve it any more.

Comment Re:We are going so fast we need to slow down! (Score 1) 118

I'm not sure how much trust in the tech industry there was to begin with. After continued enshittification, numerous user data mishandling scandals, outright psychological manipulation of people in order to increase engagement, pushing ads into everything etc etc it was already pretty obvious that the main goal of a lot of tech industry is not to make better tech. Plus they've already tried to create similar hype based bubbles with cryptocurrency and NFTs (which are also technologies that have some uses in very limited number of situations but which they claimed were going to change everything). But certainly what trust still remained has been damaged.

Comment Re:This makes my suspicion nipple tingle (Score 4, Insightful) 63

Any additional jobs gained in construction of datacenters have to be temporary. Once you're done constructing the datacenter, your job is finished. Unless you assume that the AI bubble keeps growing indefinitely and new datacenters will continuously keep getting built, but even in that case at some point you'll run out of land.

Comment Re:Right Wing???? (Score 2) 224

Reading some of what that guy supposedly said, I wouldn't say he's a liberal necessarily, he may be a right-winger and a bit of an edgelord. Although people nowadays love taking quotes out of context, so you can never be too sure. But that's not in itself such an apocalyptic thing. There was a time when people would have just shrugged and gone 'ok the guy may be a bit of an idiot but he's made a really good Linux distro' (I'm not familiar with this distro but apparently it's popular). People used to understand that other people have opinions and they are sometimes different from their own.

Nowadays however you have this army of sad people on social media who find any quote that goes against the allowed set of opinions and act like the author of the quote personally genocided a whole country. Of course the real message is 'you can totally see how much I hate these opinions, because I have all the correct opinions, I'm a good boy, please tell me I'm a good boy'.

If you believe somebody is saying something wrong and/or stupid you can try to explain to them why they're wrong, or at least explain to others why they're wrong. What's bad is acting like expressing a wrong opinion is a capital offense. That's far far more dangerous than one person talking anti-immigrant or anti-vax nonsense or whatever. Because once you've established that just having 'wrong' opinions deserves you being fired from your job or even imprisoned, it's extremely easy to change what's defined as 'wrong opinions', depending on which government is in power at a given time. And then you suddenly find that criticising the government in any way will land you in prison. US may currently be the only place with real freedom of speech but if people keep trying to undermine it, it may not have freedom of speech for much longer.

Comment Re:I'm Not Anti-AI (Score 3, Interesting) 51

There's a theory that if our civilization regresses to a pre-industrial state, or if indeed humanity dies out completely and some other species becomes sapient in the future and starts building its own civilization, this future civilization will never be able to achieve any kind of advanced technological level again.

The reasoning goes something like this. A civilization can't come up with new technology just by some smart guy sitting in a cave thinking things up. You need a certain level of social stability and organization, advanced enough agriculture, and most importantly ubiquitous technology that's just a bit less advanced than technology you're trying to inevent. Which in the end all comes down to resources. In the pre-industrial age it'll mainly be metals, for early industrial civilization coal, then gas, uranium, etc etc. Not sure if gold and silver are necessary for civilization.

However resource extraction also needs a certain level of technology. So you have a chicken and egg problem here, you can't have technology without resources, but you can't extract resources without technology. Our civilization was able to overcome that because there were widespread resource deposits that required only very primitive technology to exploit. Surface deposits, open-pit mines and so on. Those were depleted early on, but by that time we developed better technology and were able to use harder to get to resource deposits.

However for a hypothetical future civilization that bootstrap process won't be available. All the easy to get to resource deposits have already been depleted (by us) and all other deposits require technology which they don't have. So they'll be forever stuck at a pre-industrial level.

I don't know if I totally believe that theory, it'll depend on whether they could find a way to use the mines that were left over from our failed civilization, or if they could repurpose many artifacts left over from us. Or perhaps that hypothetical future civilization could base its technology on different resources than we did. It seems at least reasonably plausible though.

Comment Re:This reads like fake news (Score 1) 39

But this isn't about a missile attack. A power plant in US should be just as easy to hack as a power plant in UK. I bet some idiot pressed a wrong button or something or they deployed cool new software which hasn't been tested very much, and then they decided to blame this on the Iran boogeyman instead.

Comment Re:This reads like fake news (Score 1) 39

Especially since it's not clear what's in it for Iran. They're not at war with UK, but they are at war with US, so wouldn't a US power plant make a lot more sense as a target? Afaik during the course of this war so far Iran has only attacked targets belonging to either US and Israel or to the neighbouring Gulf nations. OTOH this government has been known to use foreign policy as a distraction to domestic problems, as have a lot of governments. Add to this that The Telegraph is known to, let's just say, not be the most reliable source of information, and has a very right-wing bias and indeed this seems very fishy.

Comment Re:To What End? (Score 1) 165

My guess would be, mostly internal propaganda, sort of like a military parade on steroids. Moon is a lifeless rock, any mining operation there would be absolute light years away from being economical, never mind that it may well be logistically impossible to get the necessary mining equipment there or maintain enough people there to run any sort of mining operation. Any 'permanent settlement' there would as far as I see it be their own version of ISS, with hookers and blackjack, just based on a big asteroid rather than floating in space. I can't see such a 'settlement' having a population of more than a few astronauts. So very little practical benefit to be gained.

China's economy may be doing better than Europe's or US's in some ways, but they have their own problems, the growth is slowing down and there is a fair amount of domestic discontent. So they're probably looking for an impressive piece of propaganda to distract the population. Taiwan invasion could be one but they're probably realising the heap of problems it would bring. They're learning from US and Russia's mistakes I guess. So a moon base (just like in scifi!) would have pretty impressive propaganda value.

My guess would be they may decide it's not worth it. Supplying such a base would be massively expensive. Also, my knowledge of this is limited, but wouldn't there be additional logistic challenges in resupplying a ground-based base as opposed to a space station, due to the Moon's rotation? If the goal is propaganda, then any catastrophic equipment failure resulting in (probably quite unpleasant) death of the population of the base would be a significant loss of face. So I guess the plans to have a permanent base by 2040 or whatever will remain just plans. Although who knows, CCP has access to significant wealth which they can spend absolutely however they want and pretty impressive know-how, so depends on how much value they place on this I guess.

Comment Re: Eh, well, why not? (Score 1) 192

OK the whole hormone thing is just a complete red herring. We're talking about the way to determine the sex of the individual. For which the only thing you need to know is, do they have XX chromosomes, in which case they're female, or XY, in which case they're male. That's all you need. If for whatever reason a male foetus has been exposed to very little testosterone during its development, it will probably have a lot of problems, but it will grow up to be a male with extremely undeveloped sexual characteristics. But still a male, not any non-binary nonsense. And what 'brain shape' has to do with anything, I'm still completely mystified.

Besides, as far as I can see gender dysphoria has very little to do with the amount of oestrogen/testosterone a person has. I remember recently taking a bus where the bus driver was wearing female clothes, and this was a huge, very male looking dude.

By definition, gender dysmorphia means you're one gender, but you feel like you're a different one. But if gender that you are can be determined unambiguously, and I've heard absolutely nothing that has persuaded me otherwise, that means what they're feeling is objectively different from reality, so by definition it's a delusion. A schizophrenic man sincerely and genuinely believes that the mole people from outer space are plotting to steal his memories or something. And I have absolutely no doubt that it really sucks to be this way. But you do not encourage the schizophenic's delusions.

This is starting to feel like one of those online discussions that goes around in circles and doesn't accomplish very much at all.

Comment Re: Eh, well, why not? (Score 1) 192

OK I've read all this and I'm still not seeing what these '17 types of brain' have to do with sex of the person in question.

By hormonal doses I imagine you mean testosterone and oestrogen? The production of those hormones is determined by the chromosomes of the person, i.e. by whether they're male or female. Males produce (more) testosterone, and women (more) oestrogen. Sex hormones produced by males and females will have some influence on various sexual characteristics, like male or female genitalia, ability to bear children for women (at least potentially), as well as secondary characteristics that result in sexual dimorphism. So for two women (who both have XX chromosomes, have female genitalia, can bear children etc), what does the 'shape of their brain' have to do with them being women? Maybe if you were to give a link to the study you're trying to reference it may make more sense.

People desire to live in their sense of dignity, and that extends to sexual identity. A clear number of apparently male and female people believe their gender is different from their anatomical appearance.For them, they're right. And we're right to believe them.

That's just a complete non-sequitur. I believe I am the king of Atlantis. I desire to live in dignity and this belief is important for my sense of dignity, so for me, I'm right and everyone else should believe me. Having beliefs that are not based on reality is very dangerous. If other people insist on holding such beliefs, it's their problem but I have no intention of following them in their madness.

Comment Re: Eh, well, why not? (Score 1) 192

It's provable and has been proven that differing hormonal doses from the same base XY or XX set produce differently shaped brains

What does that have to do with anything? Everyone's brains are shaped differently in some way. A 'differently shaped brain' has never been seen as any kind of sexual characteristic as far as I'm aware. Even if it was, it would be very much a secondary sexual characteristic. This would be similar to claiming that being a very short man means you're in fact a woman or something else.

The experience of gender dysphoria is real for those that experience this

In that case, if you strongly feel something, even though this something is clearly objectively false, it's called a delusion. See for example the Capgras delusion where the sufferer believes that someone they know has been replaced with an identical looking impostor, or Cotard's syndrome where the affected person believes they're dead. What you do with patients suffering from delusions is you try to treat them as best you can. You do not try to convince everyone else that this delusion is in fact real.

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