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Comment Re:*TRIGGERED* (Score 2) 571

Oh no! It seems that the science isn't quite settled here! It seems that socialization DOES have an effect!
No, it's settled. Boys are more interested in things, girls in people, and this is not due to socialization
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Social Justice people like to think that it is extremely hard, if not impossible, to determine to what degree nature and nurture influence behavior, and advocate that we must take the position that we can manipulate everything by socialization, since we can't know for sure wether it's determined by nature, nurture, or a combination of both. It's essentially shifting the burden of evicence.

In fact, it's pretty easy to determine what is innate, and what is learned. All you have to do is look at the variation across cultures. The behavior that varies is socialized, while the behavior that remains constant across cultures is innate. Boys prefer things, and girls prefer people, across all cultures. There are several other such differences we can observe.

Stepping back a bit, based on what we know about sexually reproducing species, we should certainly expect there to be many innate differences. Men and women, like all living things, are optimized for reproductive success. That is, behavior that increases fitness ( read: produces successful offspring ) is selected for.

Thing is, men and women reproduce VASTLY differently. Since womens reproductive potential is capped by biology, she can only grow so many offspring in her lifetime, while mens potential is capped only by access to mating opportunities, it follows that men and women will act differently. Men will display behavior designed to maximize their access to mating opportunities, while women will act in ways that maximize her ability to raise her offspring. Let's remember that a really smart ape is still an ape.

If men acted like women, being more choosy about who they copulate with, that would be detrimental to their reproductive success. Likewise if women acted like men, and tried to have sex with as many men as possible, that would be detrimental to her reproductive success because such behavior will produce less fit offspring. You can point to bonobos, and a couple of other exceptions in nature, but these species evolved in very specific and unusual environments. Bonobos have no natural predators, and have easy access to food, which is a rare luxury in nature. Their sexual behavior is just as much biologically hardwired as chimpanzees'.

These predictions fit perfectly with observations we can make. Men and women do in fact behave this way, in all cultures. There is no culture where these roles are reversed, so claiming that this behavior is "socially constructed" makes no sense.

Comment Re:Do you have any idea how you all sound? (Score 1) 517

You did, when you decided that treating women like people, per my post, was feminism which you then rejected entirely. Now you contradict yourself:
No, I didnt. You're saying the solution is to treat women as people implying that they are not treated as people, that they are opressed and held back in STEM becuase of discrimination, and should be treated as such. There is no evidence for any such opression or discrimination in the US or Europe.

Pure delusion aside, you now reject the idea that treating women like people is a feminist principle. Which is it?
Nope, wrong again. That women should be treated as people is a central idea of feminism, but what "treated as people" actually means, is treated like victims. That is clear from feminisms sentral doctrine, the doctrine of the Patriarchy, which holds that women er perpetually opressed.

Women should be treated as peers, not as victims who require special treatment and egg shell-walking. That is what feminism wants. Special treatment for women. Women should not be treated as victims merely because they are women.

Comment Re:Do you have any idea how you all sound? (Score 1) 517

If treating women like people, and not acting like a socially underdeveloped adolecent at work are anathema to you how can I possibly respond? If you think feminism is awful because you don't think that women should be treated like equals, and that adults should act like adults, what could I possibly offer in response?
Who said I don't think women should be treated as equals? That's not what feminism is about though. Feminism is not about treating women as equals, it's about treating women as opressed victims that require special treatment. That's not the same thing.

When you think that normal, pro-social, behavior is tyranny and must be resisted at all costs, what can I offer you? How can I convince you that pro-social behavior benefits everyone, yourself included?

"Normal, pro-social behavior"? Clinging on to a victim narrative is not normal, or pro-social behavior. Claiming to be oppressed when you are not does not benefit anyone.

The truth is, I can't. You may have believed that some time ago, but your inexplicable anti-feminist ideology has stripped what was left of your (presumably limited) understanding of normal social behavior. I can recommend some adult social services if you're having trouble functioning at work or in public places.

My "anti-feminist" ideology? Sure, I am an anti-feminist, but my ideology is classic liberalism, which is fundamentally incompatible with feminisms' desire for censorship, "safe spaces", language policing, and strict regulation of culture. Thanks for the offer, but like I said, I don't need sexists telling me how to not be sexist, and feminism is most definitely a sexist ideology.

Comment Re:Except the Gamergators, MRA's and PUA's (Score 2) 239

Adult children who live in a deluded world view where women are either villains, trophies, and the reason women won't have sex with them is entirely because they're disgusting. How much of that is from video games? It can be argued that the degrading treatment of women in the games played a role, but it could also just be that they don't get out of their moms basement to see the world isn't the awful place that they think it is.

As opposed to adult children who live in a deluded world view where women are perpetual victims of a mysterious and mythical patriarchy?
The worst thing video gamers have become is skeptical of feminism? Yeah, that's a result of not just listening and believing, but of actually employing healthy skepticism. Modern second wave feminsm does not hold up to such scrutiny, so it can safely be dismissed as false. Thankfully, more and more people are doing this, and feminism true nature is becoming clear to more and more people. Hopefully this cancer will be gone from politics and academia in a decade.

Comment Re:Feminists have been doing this for years (Score 1) 510

The topic is anti science is it not? Is it really hijacking a topic to point out that denial of evolution is taught as fact, totally free of criticism and skepticism in universities? When feminism has succeeded at what creationism seeks to accomplish, denial of evolution, is it actually "decidedly off-topic"? No, of course not. You people need to wake the fuck up. All non-christians know creationism is bullshit, but not a lot of people realise feminism is doing the same thing and far more succesfully.

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