Mathematics nothing (Score 1)

In mathematics, zero is not always thought of as nothing because it is still a value. Take for example, you have a number set like {1,2,3}. Some people would think that having the number set {0} would be nothing, but that is wrong. The number set still contains a value even though that value is zero. A set that contains no values is called an empty set. An empty set can be represented by showing {} or more traditionally as Ø. So zero is not nothing, at least not in the sense of set building. Oh, and guess what, an empty set is defined as being null, the name for this empty set character Ø. I am not trying to start an argument on what the true meaning of nothing is, I just wanted to give a mathematic approach that came to mind while looking at the poll options. If you wanted to get philosophical about it, you could say that even Ø is something because it is still a set with no values. Or you could smoke a bowl and start blabbering: "if nothing is a thing that we can define, then it is something because it has a name, therefore it is a hypocracy of us by being able to make it something when it's supposed to not be anything at all".