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Comment Re:It's almost like the Concord verses the 747 aga (Score 1) 157

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Ok, let's look at an emergency scenario where a capsule (not the tube) undergoes rapid depressurization. To save the passengers, the ambient pressure in the entire tube must quickly (within a few seconds) be brought up to levels at which oxygen masks will function; about 20kPa. This can be done by flooding the tube with air evenly along its length; no tube destruction required. The question is whether a 20kPa tube atmosphere would impose problematic aerobraking forces on the capsules. At 700mph, you'd probably be ok. But at 1500mph, you'd immediately be exceeding the ambient speed of sound, which would be very bad.... Long story short: if your capsule suddenly depressurizes at 1500 mph, you're dead. But at 700 mph, you might still be ok. The risks and complexities associated with hypersonic tube travel seem to outweigh the benefits, at least for now. Subsonic is good enough, really.

Interesting, and necessary, scenario. But I think the "few seconds" constraint is extreme. At 800 mph the vehicle stops in 30s at 1g, and I suspect 3g (space shuttle launch) is not that intolerable in an emergency; its certainly not fatal. Unconsciousness takes about 15s. There have been vacuum chamber accidents where people have recovered after exposure to vacuum for 30s (i.e. yes, Bowman with no helmet could have beat HAL in 2001).

Comment Re:It's almost like the Concord verses the 747 aga (Score 1) 157

The main advantage to hydrogen would be overcoming the Kantrowitz choking effect caused by supersonic flow;

Yes, understood, and any design choice that further lowers the density of gas in the tube requires more compressor work for the air bearings, which require a fixed mass per second flow. From the alpha proposal:

"At nominal weight and g-loading, a capsule on the Hyperloop will require air injection beneath the ski at a rate of 0.44 lb/s (0.2 kg/s) at 1.4 psi (9.4 kPa) for the passenger capsule."

Comment Re:proposed hyperloop goes to proposed city (Score 1) 157

Vacuum tubes of miles in length, smooth to extremely high tolerances, will be far more expensive than oil pipes.

Perhaps more expensive the oil pipes, but using hyperloop would use similar amount of material and similar right of way costs, and thus will be far less expensive than elevated road or rail. The pipe does not have to manufactured to the tolerance you suggest, but can smoothed to tolerance once set in place.

Comment Re:It's almost like the Concord verses the 747 aga (Score 1) 157

And in the event of a rapid tube repressurization, a 700mph capsule will incur about 2g's of aerobraking deceleration; at 1500mph it would experience about 10g's, likely enough to destroy the capsule and/or kill the passengers.

That kind of deceleration assumes an instantaneous transition from 100 to 100000 Pa, which is not possible absent total destruction of the tube immediately prior to a pod at cruise, in which case deceleration due to air is moot. Otherwise the pressure in a 381 mile long tube must rise gradually.

Comment Re:It's almost like the Concord verses the 747 aga (Score 1) 157

"unpleasant and frightening experience of riding in a narrow sealed, windowless capsule, inside a sealed steel tunnel, ... potential for a seriously unpleasant travel experience " Like an airplane traveling at night for ten hours in rough weather or turbulence from the aircraft 10 miles ahead for most of the trip? Hyperloop SF to LA will be 30 mins. I suspect people can avoid the restroom. "ground shifting due to settling and ongoing seismic activity will inevitably ..." ... will inevitably be addressed by load levelers between pylon and the tube, as they have been for years for all kinds of structures.

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