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Comment Re:An agenda (Score 1) 420

Science is not about proving, it's about finding models that accurately predict the behavior of nature, testing these models, improving the models, and so on. Anthropogenic causality has been shown using these models and they are predicting a bad outcome without a change in behavior on the part of humanity. You buy insurance to protect against improbable eventualities that if they occurred would result in a very bad effect on you and your family's lives. Would you refuse to buy this insurance because it can't be proven that the predicted outcome will occur? I don't think so...

Comment Re:An agenda (Score 3, Informative) 420

Actually, the research of Michael Mann and many other climate scientists has concentrated very specifically on understanding cyclical patterns, volcanic eruptions and other natural processes that impact climate. One of the key challenges has been to figure out how to provide accurate and reliable temperature reconstructions going back a significantly long period of time (way before there were thermometers to perform direct measurements) in order to ferrit out the relative impact of cyclical patterns, single event effects (like volcanic eruptions) and anthropogenic effects on temperature. The primary method to do this has been to use proxy data derived from things such as tree rings, ice cores and the like. Because this data exists overlapping periods when direct temperature measurements could be taken the proxy data could be calibrated to within a certain error factor. The resulting findings have shown that even allowing for the effects of cyclical patterns and single occurance events the anthropogenic impact has been the dominate contributor over the last half century. Another thing to understand, and an issue even in this article is the incorrect use of the term "skeptic". These people are not skeptics (skeptics can be convinced in the presence of new data). These people are deniers who ignore data that disagrees with their world view. Scientists by their vary nature are skeptics and so to have this large of a consensus in the scientific community is even more of an indication of the validity of the conclusion that 1) the climate is warming by an unpresidented rate and 2) the dominant contributor is anthropogenic.
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Scripting In Commodore BASIC For Windows & Linux 213

SomeoneGotMyNick writes "Someone more nostalgic than I am, and with a lot of time on their hands, had created a scripting language based on Commodore BASIC for Mac OS X. They recently finished a version that works on Windows and Linux. You can pass the text of a BASIC program as a parameter to the program. I found it odd that it took 1.8 MB of source code to compile to an interpreter that used to fit in 8K of ROM space. If this ever becomes popular, perhaps we'll see Obfuscated CBM BASIC contests." In a simliar vein, in the comments someone points out what is essentially an open source AmigaOS Classic.
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Submission + - What is the oldest code written still running? 2

Consul writes: This is something I've been thinking about lately, and I think it would make for an interesting exercise and debate. What is the oldest piece of code that is still in use today, that has not actually been retyped or reimplemented in some way? By "piece of code", I'm of course referring to a complete algorithm, and not just a single line. So, does anyone think there's a routine out there that has survived the ages simple by being copied around?

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