Comment Re:This is bad. Very bad. (Score 1) 450
"Cable modem users and DSL users are unaffected (unless Cogent is their provider's only upstream, and I haven't heard of any that are in that situation)."
WTF are you babbling about? I've had hundreds of calls from hundreds of users that cannot access various web pages since yesterday morning. Now, obviously it's nothing caused by us but it's certainly something that is affecting them.
"On another note, I *am* on RR. Cogent doesn't exist from my net.perspective. I read quite a few sites regularly, and I have yet to run accross one that's affected. The impact of this event is quite small unless you happen to have the misfortune of being a Cogent customer."
Um, Cogent DOES exist from your perspective as soon as you try to access a page/host on one of their connections or one passing to them through Level3. Just because you're not personally seeing the issue yourself don't pull this crap that "it's only a problem if you're a Cogent customer" because you're flat out wrong.
"As for the home users who are whining about this, y'all need to get a life and just go outside when your favorite site is offline for a day or two. It ain't the end of the world." That is, unless you run a business from home or work from home, but then I suppose those people don't count to you since they're not the technical master that you are? With your high and mighty stance towards people that don't take every, possible situation into consideration you're just throwing them a big FU? HA!
Do an ROI on multi-homed setups.... we did.... I helped many companies do the same.... the ONLY time the returns are truly favorable is in exactly this and ONLY this situation. Every other possibility shows that waiting out outages and rerouting is best for the bottom line for a "normal" non-MS company. Period. To tell people they need to pay for multi-homed access from the very beginning to avoid this type of problem is insane - they just don't NEED it.
Everybody can get into the technical mish-mash all they want - the fact is this : Level3 and Cogent fighting like this IS affecting Internet use, from home user to small businesses, to (even, yes) some large businesses.
And to state "get a real ISP" as I've heard some saying along with "you should've seen this coming" - you're all full of thick, smelly POO. When's the last time this kind of thing happened on this scale? And no, Level3 fighting with XO doesn't count because XO pulls this type of crap ALL of the time with their outages and horrible support staff... I deal with them daily and my grandparents could run a better support shop then XO.
My $.02 which, I'm sure, is to be shortly ripped apart! ;-p
_Drull_
WTF are you babbling about? I've had hundreds of calls from hundreds of users that cannot access various web pages since yesterday morning. Now, obviously it's nothing caused by us but it's certainly something that is affecting them.
"On another note, I *am* on RR. Cogent doesn't exist from my net.perspective. I read quite a few sites regularly, and I have yet to run accross one that's affected. The impact of this event is quite small unless you happen to have the misfortune of being a Cogent customer."
Um, Cogent DOES exist from your perspective as soon as you try to access a page/host on one of their connections or one passing to them through Level3. Just because you're not personally seeing the issue yourself don't pull this crap that "it's only a problem if you're a Cogent customer" because you're flat out wrong.
"As for the home users who are whining about this, y'all need to get a life and just go outside when your favorite site is offline for a day or two. It ain't the end of the world." That is, unless you run a business from home or work from home, but then I suppose those people don't count to you since they're not the technical master that you are? With your high and mighty stance towards people that don't take every, possible situation into consideration you're just throwing them a big FU? HA!
Do an ROI on multi-homed setups.... we did.... I helped many companies do the same.... the ONLY time the returns are truly favorable is in exactly this and ONLY this situation. Every other possibility shows that waiting out outages and rerouting is best for the bottom line for a "normal" non-MS company. Period. To tell people they need to pay for multi-homed access from the very beginning to avoid this type of problem is insane - they just don't NEED it.
Everybody can get into the technical mish-mash all they want - the fact is this : Level3 and Cogent fighting like this IS affecting Internet use, from home user to small businesses, to (even, yes) some large businesses.
And to state "get a real ISP" as I've heard some saying along with "you should've seen this coming" - you're all full of thick, smelly POO. When's the last time this kind of thing happened on this scale? And no, Level3 fighting with XO doesn't count because XO pulls this type of crap ALL of the time with their outages and horrible support staff... I deal with them daily and my grandparents could run a better support shop then XO.
My $.02 which, I'm sure, is to be shortly ripped apart!
_Drull_
