I completely agree, I almost bought the M170 but I saw this Toshiba P105-S921 gaming laptop that beat the crap out of it for the price. I decided to wait for the new M1710, but after comparing the two, I dont think $800.00 more for a simmilar outfit from Dell is worth the flashy case and the higher resolution display. The Dell has more powerful models for those who have the dough to spend, but I just want the most performance for the dollar. I have never owned a Toshiba, hopefully I'll be happy with it.