Comment Re:I am now confused (Score 1) 507
What a specious and offensive statement. Hating Zionism is no more dependent on hating Jews than hating Naziism is dependent on hating Germans or hating Apartheid requires hating Afrikaaners.
Hating Zionism is one of symptoms of modern Antisemitism. By hating Zionism you state that Jews should be denied right to be like other nations and live as citizens of their country. So you, being anti-Zionist, do not allow the Jew the privilege of normality, just like the Anti-Semites of the past centuries.
You should not equal Zionism with Nazism or racism, even UN stopped doing this. You hate Zionism, Zionists and thus deny right of Jewish people to live in Israel, because Israel was created by evil Zionists. If one denies right of, say, german people to live in Germany, I'll definitely call him anti-german.
The idea that the SLA was independent enough to perpetrate Sabra and Shatila under Yaron's nose without his permission or order is unhistorical. The SLA was Israel's Ostbattalion. Yaron reported to Sharon who was certainly responsible for his actions
These two were indeed centers of PLO activity. Phalangist were to enter the refugee camps and destroy remaining PLO fighters. Israelis did not give them permission to murder innocent people. Once in the camps, they were not visible to the Israeli soldiers. tila. The Lebanese police estimated the total deaths at 460. Of these, only 35 were women and children. Sharon and Amos Yaron were not responsible for any war crimes in Sabra and Shatila, they were indirectly responsible for not anticipating the possibility of Phalangist violence.
I do appreciate your candor regarding your hatred of Islam however.
I do have no hatred of Islam or muslims. I like and appreciate many aspects of their culture, I've enjoyed learning about Sufism, I like poetry of Rumi and Khafiz. But I'm not going to forget who I am and who are enemies of my people. So I hate Nazis and their contemporary variant: "Palestinians"
I didn't say there was a massacre at Jenin. I said the IDF perpetrated a terrorist attack there.
I't was not a terrorist attack. I't was just a military operation against terrorrists, not a very successful one. Israels could bomb the entire camp, the strategy used by the U.S. Army in Afghanistan. But the IDF deliberately chose another tactic to reduce the likelihood of civilian casualities. Soldiers went from house to house and 23 of them were killed in combat.
However I'll see you your terrorist's memoir and raise you Haganah/IDF Colonel Meir Pa'el's eyewitness account of Der Yasin,
Read what Uri Milshtein says about Colonel Pa'el http://www.ajds.org.au/levitan.htm.
As for your man Begin, here is what Albert Einstein (and several other prominent Zionists) had to say about him,
Great scientists are not nessesarily well informed and unbiased political and military experts.
Shana Toav umetuka.
Shana tova,
It's Sukkot now