They're far more church/religion like than you might think

They're also an anti LGBTQIA+ hate group

Wait, I thought these guys never met a regulation they didn't want to cut/remove..

Clean air regulation? naaah let them breathe toxins

Clean water regulation? Naaah its their fault if they drink poop

AntiTrust rule? naah not if its one of the companies that donated a million to the turnips innaugeration or came and kissed his rings

It goes on and on (oh and yeah I realize I did the rule of threes here and so um

Anti Nebulon of Praxis 3 rule? naaah that was just something Captain Kirk said to make it sound science fictiony after mentioning 3 things we do know about on Earth

Anyway, yeah I don't think AI writing anything is a good idea, but the weirdness of hearing about folks in this administration talking about wanting to make more

You're exactly right this is "flooding the zone" for sure..

I used to love reading dystopian cyberpunk speculative fiction when I was younger but now that I live in a dystopian cyberpunk future, I kind of really am soured on the whole genre. Someone please make it stop.

I must have had my head under a rock or something cuz this is the first I've heard of Rogozinski but based on what little I've read .. and seeing your comment Yeah, I think you're 100% right - the question is will Nebula, Patreon, and others who have increasingly become ways for notable creators to host and monetize outside of yootoob's functional monopoly - with this ruling, how long before YooToob makes a move like that exactly as you say .. because ... enshittification.

Truth is that enshittification as a business model is pretty much the future we are going to inherit... and of course then the worry is what happens if / when Nebula and Patreon and the alternatives turn as well.

Constant game of content creators needing to find new less enshittified homes - it's .. depressing.

This is unquestionably true.

It seems to me that these big tech CEOs are so divorced from reality, and so focused tickig the boxes that "the market" wants to see; which - with AI being extremely good at telling you what you want to hear without worrying overly about .. objective fact or reality... strikes me as "Yeah AI can do that job easy"

If you visit /r/facebook you will see dozens of people a day posting how their accounts are getting strikes and even banned in what appear to increasingly be

AI moderation utterly failing to be able to parse context.

Now, sure maybe some got strikes for real stuff they're not showing/saying but there's a clear pattern.

Anecdote is not evidence, but I've certainly had FB give me warnings over really innocuous stuff that in context was clearly not what I was being accused of

(to give an example, a friend posted an article about drug addiction and recovery and one of the quotes was along the lines of "... resisting the urge to shove my face in a cocaine plant" and I replied with that exact section of the quote and a "LOL, WUT?"

as in "that is a really weird phrasing"

the AI gave me a few days ding for "selling or promoting drug use"

I only got a restriction for a time but the reports of being perma banned are legion. (and yes folks have tried the appeal to no avail). The only ones with any luck are the ones who go and pay for meta verified then contact a real customer service who can sometimes reverse it

The wrongful strikes and bans sometimes even accuse the person of CSAM with about as much lack of context as the "cocaine plant" quote above...

So, I'm surprised this article is talking about it as if banning is this huge thing - as if the problem is how hard it is to permaban folks

Seriously its like they have this idea of what they do but are letting their AI moderators go off the rails without actually looking to see.

At this point I actually wonder if the AI is going off the rails but also somehow reporting /logging things in a way that is just making nice dashboards for the C-level folks to say "working as intended"

I feel like a total tin foil hat wearer even suggesting it, but with AI stuff often telling people what they want to hear regardless of .um .. facts... I wonder if it's reporting glowingly about the work its doing while the actual tools with rights to ban folks are going off on a stint that would make the "Church Lady" seem downright hedonistic by comparison

Rollo kind of started this off in the early 900s - it became what we call feudalism

Everything old is new again.

Adam Something over on YouTube just did a GREAT explainer on the new Digital Feudalism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Oh you ran into EDP too, huh?

"""The mods all became power-trippers obsessed with closing questions and keeping people in line, rather than the original purpose of helping people"""

This..

I've been on the hunt for some obscure pickle I was in and found exactly the question I needed answered showing up in my search results - I go clicking on it to see what the responses were only to see that there are no responses and a mod said "this does not meet the requirement for bla bla"

Most recently annoying one - someone was asking on StackOverflow which related to an API - they weren't quite directly asking like "how to I code this" but the mods shut it down for not being about programming - I was kind of floored...

Another one was they added some new comment feature and I replied to someone using it only to be chided by mods saying effectively "yes this is a new feature and it looks like it should be used for this but we the community hate it and have petitioned to remove it so kindly delete your comment and put it this way instead"

It makes me not want to answer or help... I do stil go there and give +1s to folks with good questions or answers but nowadays I find that domain specific subreddits (/r/MacOS, /r/homelab, /r/MatterProtocol etc...) are much better at providing curent answers without nearly the gatekeeping - sure some subreddits are run by d-bags but those seem to quickly be abandoned and a new subreddit on teh topic pops up - very ... fork you!

I have rarely read a post by someone that so exactly touches every single point I would have wanted to make.

Sincerely,
~an old curmudgeonly lady who also yells at clouds (quite literally these days) to get off my browser and by computer and my everything.

Cop pulls me over, the phone has been shut down. Handing them your phone with digital license is just invitation for them to go plug your phone into a moblie forensics tool and go fishing..

Seriously, hand over your license and registration and proof of insurance paper and refuse to agree to any searches, refuse to answer any questions (politely) and ask if you are free to go.

These digital wallets are just pretense to get you to unknowingly give consent for a search

I'm not a fan of AI.

Don't get me wrong, I think machine learning and neural networks and machine vision etc.. a lot of specific subsections lumped under "AI" have merit and value - and even LLMs in the right places could be useful.. but the whole AI hype train where every company just forces LLMs and chatbots into everything .. and the insane power (both political and electrical) grabs etc.. it's just such a total shit bubble waiting to pop.

In some ways, Apple's failure with Apple Intelligence shows us something: they pulled back because they realized that the local AI has so much information to everything about you and if it starts hallucinating/misbehaving (which it apparently did outside of the narrow confined window they used in their demo) it could have dire consequences in terms of their reputation as being champions of privacy (Note I am sure they care more about the appearance / vibe than actual, and if they decided it would be profitable to flip in the future they might)

Point being that apple screwing up on shoveling AI into their stuff made them fall back to less hyped implementation that might actually bear real fruit (pun intended) in the future

So, my thought is that maybe if the CCP sees AI as a threat, they'll similarly pull back from some of the hype and find ways to make less grandiose AI stuff - specific purpose narrow AI stuff that does useful stuff... and since they have such a prominent position in terms of making electronic stuff - end up making actually better AI

Or .. they could just go with their current Streisand Effect mode...

At one point I saw a lot of the US blocking /banning Chinese stuff as purely racism motivated "yellow scare" from the admin, but its complicated - Chinese state sponsored actors have absolutely been actively probing our power grids, there was a huge issue with finding undocumented cellular radios and sim chips in various grid infrastructure (grid level inverters for solar and wind for instance) as well as in things like public transportation (city busses in some countries)

So there's this weird thing where it's easy to see many reactions from the US admin as kneejerk racist insanity but then there's actual crappy stuff the Chinese government is actually doing or supporting... so I'm left not being sure what to believe

Except I'm pretty sure the current view of AI and the hype is utterly an unsustainable bubble that is going to leave a lot of folks holding the bag but probably allow folks like Altman to walk away with wheelbarrows full of money.

Damnit, I'm a Gen-Xer I watched the world go from analog to digital, I was a huge technophile all my childhood. I really used to love Dystopian Cyberpunk speculative fiction .. but now that I am living in a Dystopian Cyberpunk future I've realized that somewhere in there Orwell was an optimist, Idiocracy was conservative in their estimates of how bad things get, and now am firmly in the position that we are in fact the Pakleds from StarTrek... and Max Headroom was right about everything except instead of TV networks, it's the Interwebz.

The cynical view of course is that Perplexity will get to where it accepts ad revenue (bribes) to steer folks to certain brands, effectively cutting Amazon out of the lucritive ad market

I read somewhere that Amazon makes far more money from charging money for ad placement in their results than from actual direct sales.

They also make far more money from allowing the third party slop sellers and forcing them to use Amazon Fulfillment than they do from sales

Its basically that they used selling stuff and a great service initially to get their market cap and a captive audience then leveraged that into all this far more lucrative enshittified garbage.

I guess I'm cynical and jaded, but I just worry all this AI arms race is just putting the Pakleds in charge

I am truly dismayed at how long I had to scroll through this thread till I saw a comment that asked this

Seriously we live in The stupidest possible timeline

I honestly don't know what's worse:

The privacy implications / issue reported
or the fact that this even exists..

how is this a thing?

This is likely going to be the only way forward until they disable that option...

I know that Apple very tightly links MacOS with apple accounts, but it is still completely possible to set up a Mac with local account only.. whether you find MacOS useful without an Apple ID associated is entirely another story.

With MS I have never found a compelling reason to want/need/use a MS account directly tied to my windows login. Yes if one uses OneDrive and/OR Office365 or if you want to use your MSDN subscription etc.. but in my case I still just use local windows account and then individually connect to those things only if I want.

My work is moving to Azure/cloud Active Directory I think.. not entirely sure of the migration plan... but thus far I'm still using a "hybrid" where my account is a standard domain user that is using a local cached profile/account on my work machines.

I guess I don't mind if the account brings value as my AppleID does - the tight integration possible with my apple iCloud services is one that I do not mind. But even there, The account I use is a local account and then I just tie it in ./ log in with my Apple ID

Maybe if I had not been a windows user ever since Win 3.1 days Id feel differently about it, I don't know, but this whole you must be connected to MS with an MS account to set it up is annoying AF\ I mean what if someone is in a country / location where they can not easily or safely get online? Sure it doesn't apply to me but it just - I really like not being forced.

The more MS pushes the more I feel like rejecting them. I've drunk the Apple Kool-Aid. abit as I actually do like the integration that MacOS and iPhone have with iCloud (Especially since I use advanced encryption on my iCloud, so to get access to my photos and other stuff on desktop I have to use a Mac that is connected to the account..

But again, that was a choice I made; it was not forced on me.

Every day MS makes me more and more ready to just jump ship for MacOS and Linux /sigh.

So, interestingly, the biggest thing driving planned obsolescence right now as far as I can tell is MS pushing windows 10 out, and so many devices unable to meet the hardware requirements for Win 11

The article didn't mention if these machines would be set up with older Windows or with Linux, though I'm going to guess it will be the former.

I do developer support for an SDK, and thus I have a lot of customers in India, so I have some sense of one part of this: an incredibly strong "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" attitude. I regularly have customers using a 10 or even 15 year outdated version of our SDK they're trying to work with - it worked well enough that they didn't need to update and so they didn't. Many of these folks are also using really outdated Windows. I'll admit it's been a while since I've seen someone actively using XP still, but I still often see win 7. We don't officially tell them "no we won't support you" but we will tell them "if your issue is fixed in a newer version, you need to upgrade, we can't backport fixes to ancient versions.", and over time, those ancient windows systems have been mostly replaced... I'd guess though that just like other OS versions, a huge number of folks will continue to use outdated / unsupported versions long past end of life...

Granted, this isn't just India - but I do think they have extra large motivation and that repair culture there (as mentioned in TFA) to keep older hardware limping along, and probably using out of support Windows.. I kind of shudder at the security implications... but I also kind of really admire the ingenuity and resourcefulness.

The whole windows 10 end of life due to hardware requirements is indeed going to drive a lot of waste of perfectly serviceable hardware - honestly, I kind of hope it finds its way to the bodgers / makers / hackers rather than landfills.. but I do kind of wish there was more Linux uptake to lessen the number of unpatched/unpatchable vulnerable machines out there.