Comment Its more the left-wing obsession with unicorns (Score 1) 149
There seems to be this strange re-occuring fantasy of many left-leaning people where you demonize those who do not agree with you on police to mustache twirling villains who laugh as we take joy in destroying the environment, starving people, and withholding medicines. This is nice, I suppose, since it allows you to not have any real thought or discussion about any issue. This builds the delusion that you have the moral high ground and always will, just by the mere fact that you agree with certain bloggers completely.
Let me offer a different perspective that you will not enjoy. Left leaning people have a knack for seeing a better world and identifying needs for improvement. Right leaning people have a knack for making stuff actually happen and preserving the fruits that things like rule of law, technology, and farming have brought us.
So, in the parlance of you above posters initial post, it should be titled "Why do right wingers have such an obsession with actually solving problems instead of just talking about it?" For example, we can all agree that generally left leaning Hollywood executives using their power to coerce women to sleep with them is a bad thing. The left wing default solution is to create a hashtag and feel good because they said the right things. Right wing people think we should have strict moral codes and guidelines that restrict base human impulses so that these things are limited.
In the case of the environment, it may surprise you, but like left wing people, right wing people do not enjoy pollution either. Now, if you are left leaning like Apple computer, you # that you are green and that makes you cool. Never-mind that you purposely and move all your manufacturing to places without environmental controls so that you can save money. The important thing is that you said you were Green.
The problem is power generation is a real thing. If you do it wrong, the lights go out and bad things tend to happen. It turns out that coal is plentiful and cheap, so that even poor people can afford things like air conditioning. The other power solutions tend not to provide enough energy or are very expensive. Since I do care about poor people, I am not into using only systems that rich people like software developers can afford.
It also matters that in effort to appear Green, many countries and states are playing games to mask their usage. Such as importing dirty power from other countries, but since it was generated in your country your total share is green. To me, this is not environmentally responsible. It is simply evil, like what Apple does.
A poster later in this thread gives several examples. Please read https://news.slashdot.org/comm... (and no, I am not the author nor do I know the dude)
Notice nowhere in my arguments did I say anything against trying to develop clearer energy sources or against spending money to improve process so that they are cleaner and more efficient. In fact, I think this would be a great use of the DOE in the U.S. Like many right wingers, I simply argue that instead of chasing pretend power unicorns, lets make the transitions when the technology is actually there, not because we wish it was.
Let me offer a different perspective that you will not enjoy. Left leaning people have a knack for seeing a better world and identifying needs for improvement. Right leaning people have a knack for making stuff actually happen and preserving the fruits that things like rule of law, technology, and farming have brought us.
So, in the parlance of you above posters initial post, it should be titled "Why do right wingers have such an obsession with actually solving problems instead of just talking about it?" For example, we can all agree that generally left leaning Hollywood executives using their power to coerce women to sleep with them is a bad thing. The left wing default solution is to create a hashtag and feel good because they said the right things. Right wing people think we should have strict moral codes and guidelines that restrict base human impulses so that these things are limited.
In the case of the environment, it may surprise you, but like left wing people, right wing people do not enjoy pollution either. Now, if you are left leaning like Apple computer, you # that you are green and that makes you cool. Never-mind that you purposely and move all your manufacturing to places without environmental controls so that you can save money. The important thing is that you said you were Green.
The problem is power generation is a real thing. If you do it wrong, the lights go out and bad things tend to happen. It turns out that coal is plentiful and cheap, so that even poor people can afford things like air conditioning. The other power solutions tend not to provide enough energy or are very expensive. Since I do care about poor people, I am not into using only systems that rich people like software developers can afford.
It also matters that in effort to appear Green, many countries and states are playing games to mask their usage. Such as importing dirty power from other countries, but since it was generated in your country your total share is green. To me, this is not environmentally responsible. It is simply evil, like what Apple does.
A poster later in this thread gives several examples. Please read https://news.slashdot.org/comm... (and no, I am not the author nor do I know the dude)
Notice nowhere in my arguments did I say anything against trying to develop clearer energy sources or against spending money to improve process so that they are cleaner and more efficient. In fact, I think this would be a great use of the DOE in the U.S. Like many right wingers, I simply argue that instead of chasing pretend power unicorns, lets make the transitions when the technology is actually there, not because we wish it was.