I hope you are not referring to 230gr hardball- 85% one shot stop in actual police shootings. There are high velocity 9mm loads that have 96% one shot stop statistics out there. One of the best rounds of all time was the .357 magnum 125 gr JHP that also has 96% one shot stop statistics backing it. Since then we have Hydra Shoks and I do not know the data on those.

Where was this discussion when I was beating my head in to a wall trying to pick up Linux back in '96 and the standard answer was "RTFM a$$hole"? The manual assumed you had familiarity with the operating system that you didn't have.

And there you are. Bigotry comes in all flavors. Somebody will always hate somebody without warrant. Not all Republicans are "Fascist, Warmonger, Hatemonger, Criminal, Deviant, Brain-Dead" but yet you stereotyped them. It's part of the human condition, deal with it. Laws won't fix it either. Everyone knows where the line is and that's harm to another.

Pardon my rant- When is all this crap about "SaaS" and -pardon me while I choke on this over used phrase- "Cloud Computing" going to end? Who in the He11 would want their OS running on someone else's hardware? Who would want their data stored somewhere else? Who would want the possibility of the data overlords going through their stuff? Anybody who opts for this deserves what they get. Why the push to get computing out of the hands of people and in to the hands of people who can manipulate things?

I wish I had mod points. Someone please mod him up insightful

You did that way better than I could have. I was gonna tell him to stfu and provide him with a url that has the goatse images. 'course that would've prolly started another artistic debate. :-)

I know there is a hemmorhoid joke in here somewhere.

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Any system that needs to be secure should never be allowed access to any network that has public access. If remote systems "need" to communicate it should be done via dedicated leased lines. Even better since we are talking utility type SCADA systems here, why not have the utility lay fiber, line of sight microwave or what have you (as long as it is properly encrypted)? This way if the telco gets ganked, the leased lines can't be traversed.

No, that was Rod Blagojevich.

Man I fell for that hook, line and sinker.

I have no fear of Linux- I love the Sabayon distro. What I don't like about Linux is the lack of developers making games FOR Linux. I have used wine for Windows emulation and it's ok, I have used Cedega for running my Window's games- BUT IT'S JUST NOT THE SAME.

If I had mod points, I'd mod you up. You put it more eloquently than I did.