This is fun and all, but you haven't even responded to my argument.
Al you did was avoid it and call names.
So how about you show your amazing skills first before calling the discussion ended or yourself some sort of winner.
See, "End of discussion" apparently didn't convince you that I finished the proof of my argument and it was logically complete and immune to any rational attack.
I guess we at least got that part settled.
I'm not going to repeat what I already said on the actual discussion.
You can dismiss it if you like, but I made good points.
Not my problem if you don't agree.
Exactly!
The exact description on their own website.
http://elitedangerous.com/abou...
Elite: Dangerous is the spectacular new sequel in the Elite series of games.
Head for the stars, take a ship and trade, bounty-hunt, pirate or assassinate your way across the galaxy in this
It's an awe inspiring, beautiful, vast place; with 400 billion star systems, planets, moons and asteroid fields just waiting to be explored and exploited.
That's all nice and well if you had indeed "finished the proof of your argument and it was logically complete and immune to any rational attack.", but it wasn't.
And calling it "end of discussion" does not make it suddenly true what you claim.
All I see is someone who can't take a counter argument and even lashing out with name calling if he can't get his way.
But lets see how well it can work.
End of discussion.
They did not fuck over anyone.
They just (in hindsight wrongly) assumed they could offer an offline mode.
Congratulations, you just proved that you're a useful idiot.
How very insightful of you. Yes I think you really got me figured out.
I can tell from your very eloquent reaction.
Other than that, they have come true to pretty much all of their promises
Whether a game is single-player or multi-player is the first or second most important thing about it. In fact, we often describe a game as single- or multi-player as the first words in its description. This is a central promise.
And it's always been described as a Massive Multiplayer Online game.
So, I guess by your logic there is no breach of promise at all then?
If they have a server, they can release the server to the players.
You can't seriously think that is a good thing to do for an MMO?
And your argument is stupid.
Such a pleasure to talk with someone who's so good with words.
"End of discussion."
Has this ever stopped people from responding to you before?
Backing a kickstarter is not the same as buying a product.
Maybe the people that pre-ordered the game would have a claim for a re-fund.
They do have the option to ask for a refund on their site, so I'm hoping for people who genuinely feel they wouldn't be able to enjoy the game now will get a refund of the pre-order price.
I actually don't expect there to be many backers at all that would request this, the main game is still right on track.
Most of the negativity you see won't be from backers at all.
You assume bad intent while there is no proof of that at all.
We don't know when they internally made the decision to no longer aim for an offline mode.
For all we know they been trying until shortly before the announcement. Maybe you are right, but you simply can't know if you are.
Heck, if they knew sooner it would have been in their best interest to say so sooner and have this backlash over with long before the launch.
To assume they would do it now, shortly before their big event, out of some evil plot to mess with people is just not a realistic assumption.
Projects goals change all the time, and this was a kickstarter project. There is no guaranties when you back a kickstarter.
So a lawsuit is not realistic at all, there is no chance at all that a lawsuit could force them to change their plans, and it shouldn't either.
Heck, some projects got funded and never delivered anything and didn't get a lawsuit either.
At least with Elite Dangerous we know they are doing an amazing job at really bringing the game.
They have been very reliable through out alpha and beta, and been very respectful toward their backers.
And just for this one thing you act like they are the scum of the earth.
They don't sell ships, they sell paint jobs. Big difference.
Few reasons I can think of:
Offering the server as is would potentially reveal all the secrets that's in the galaxy, making exploration pretty much pointless.
I'm sure the server code for this kind of project is not same light piece, as you play the game more and more will have to be kept track off. Most likely more than you want running in the background while playing the game.
Having the server out in the wild will just make it easier for cheats and bots to ruin the online experience.
So the only coarse of action they had was try to make a offline version without the actual server.
Doing so would have cost them significant amount of time, only to got a crippled down version of the game that would do a bad job at giving an impression of an otherwise amazing project.
I think they are doing their backers a service by no longer wasting precious time and money on a feature that only very few will have a use for.
Yes there are some people that really do have a bad connection, and it's a shame for them. I hope they got the pre-order price of the game back.
But I really doubt that all the negative voices are those people. Mostly it's people that didn't even care about the game in the first place and are just seeing an opportunity to jump on it.
They did not fuck over anyone.
They just (in hindsight wrongly) assumed they could offer an offline mode.
Other than that, they have come true to pretty much all of their promises. The speed and quality of their development is outstanding.
The advertisement is not a given at all.
It's in the EULA of all their games, it's not in the game however.
Offline mode for this that game was always going to be a crippled version of the main game, much of the workings of the game happens on the servers.
Frankly I wasn't surprised at all that they weren't able to make an offline version.
The only thing you could fault them on imo is that they should have realized this sooner/from the start.
So they made a mistake in that, big deal.
Elite Dangerous does not sell ships.
You can buy a purely cosmetic paint jobs. The 'viper chrome' is a limited edition, so more expensive. It does not offer any benefits, so there is no need at all to feel left out if you choose not to buy those.
The price for pre-order is 40 Euro, the 20 extra is if aren't patient enough to wait for release and want to join the beta.
So, pretty decent all around considering you get to play an MMO without monthly fees.
The decision doesn't have to be logical; it was unanimous.
