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Comment Re:The actual objection (Score 0) 449

Interesting you refer to wrong "facts" since most of what you are trying to defend is wrong "facts" and are more accurately described as commercial propaganda. Injection is not a treatment, it is an attempt at preventative. The new technology looks to be a not particularly effective one at that. Too bad they didn't bother to follow proper procedure and actually take and keep proper data on the injections; we might have been able to tell early on if the protection was already existing acquired immunity (population was contracting and recovering from the bug for 12+ months before injection was available) or immunity developed due to the injection... Perhaps you can enlighten us all as to what "facts" justify the prevention of viable treatments being withheld from the public since the beginning of the bug-fest in January 2020? Why western medical centers consistently just send people home rather than dispensing known effective treatments until VERY recently?

Comment Re:The actual objection (Score 1) 449

Look in the VERS database to see why its not the best idea for young people to get mRNA based injections; v.s. first week based treatments or traditional technology injections. SARS-COV-2 is very much a serious disease of the comorbidity/sick and elderly, not youth per say; do a bit more Googling if you don't understand why. The injections are NOT harmless, and since the safety protocols were bypassed/eliminated in its release, the world won't know the full details for 5 years or more. And for the wise guys, most of the "covid" deaths have been due to lack of proper treatment AT THE CORRECT TIME in the infection cycle. Very few of the "covid" deaths HAD to happen, they were ALLOWED to happen. "covid" deaths because deaths comes from out of control immune systems that weren't properly treated at the correct time.

Comment Re:The actual objection (Score 0) 449

Huh? Do a bit more googling... IVM and other "shall not be named" drugs are multi-purpose. I.e. they have use in anti-fungal, anti-bacterial and anti-viral as well as anti-parasitic depending on which protocol you use. TL;DR: They work in both the bloodstream and the digestive tract depending on how you administer them. See google if you want the molecular biology reasons as to why this is so.

Comment Re:The actual objection (Score 1, Informative) 449

Hmmm, maybe you need some remedial google training? There are dozens of studies over the past 12+ months both showing and EXPLAINING why the "treatments that shall NOT be named" work and work for far less cost than the mainstream narrative. Joe isn't saying anything new in reference to the treatments he and others have been using since summer of 2020 to stay out of hospital and avoid serious complications. I would love to hop in Marty's Delorean and jump forward a few years to find out what all the mandatory injection narrative F.U.D. was REALLY about; given the mountains of evidence it doesn't have anything constructive to do with public health. The world could have had standard technology vaccines in summer of 2020 if public health was what it is REALLY about, why the insistence on a new technology based on obviously dubious/flawed assumptions about human molecular machinery?

Comment Re:Sunken cost fallacy (Score 0) 282

Since SARS-COV-2 is endemic and has been for a while, we'd be MUCH better off spending political and financial capital on making sure that low cost, quick at-home test packs and Nyquil "covid" liquid/pills are well stocked at the neighborhood pharmacy. It's been long known that hitting the bug with protease inhibitors, and maybe some immune systems boosters for good measure, within the first 7-10 days avoids most medical bills. Just have Nyquill bottle it and be done with it; we know how adverse the political caste and big Pharma is to generic brands, otherwise I'd say have the store brands bottle it so we get a much better deal for our money... Since millions upon millions caught and recovered from the bug in the Dec. 2019 - Jan 2021 timeframe, a large chunk of the population had reasonable acquired immunity before the on-patent injections were even rolled out. Given the recent news of the traditional tech, low cost version of the injection for the 3rd world taking 6 months for a small university to assemble and test, its obvious that the world COULD have had a traditional tech injection by summer 2020 but the powers that be deliberately choose not to go that route; millions payed with their lives because of that foolishness... Quit whining that the new tech is short lived, it was designed to be so; ever heard of planned obsolescence? Other industies have been using the P.O. system for decades and Big Pharma has now joined that bandwagon. I sincerely doubt we will ever see a NEW injection for anything that will be "one and done" ever again; too much money in the "re-power ups" market.

Comment Re:I'm waiting... (Score 0) 282

Way are you waiting? The dozens "horse/goat/animal paste" randomized, double blind studies have been around for months; do you not know how to google? While you at it, you might also google the part about the horse paste story being a fallacy... TL;DR: Chow down on protease inhibitors, and maybe some immune system boosters, within the first 7-10 days and you avoid expensive medical bills. This assumes you aren't one of the hundreds of millions that already had/have acquired immunity by catching and recovering from the bug before the on-patent, pay-for injections were available; Dec 2019 - Jan 2021 timeframe. Let the foaming at the mouth, rabid, big Pharma cheer leader yellers of "Horse/Goat/??? paste" and "bleach" begin!!

Comment Re:Another zero-liability vaccine? (Score 0) 248

Trouble is, they shot themselves in the foot for EUA's ( Not that the rules are followed anyways), with the recent oral treatments they released. The EUA rule explicitly calls out there must not be ANY other way to treat/mitigate an infection in order for an EUA to be issued. There are vaccines and now, even approved, patented oral medicine, that can treat COVID. Not that the EUA's weren't 150% bogus before but now its beyond bogus to get an EUA. On the plus side, with the patented oral medicine now approved, fewer people now have to die in order to preserve profits; pills are MUCH better margins than injections and people are REALLY comfortable with popping pills to treat illness as opposed to rolling up their sleeves.

Comment Re:Testing must be getting difficult. (Score 0) 248

You forgot to add in the fact that millions caught and recovered from Covid in the 12 or so months before the injections were released to the general public. While there is significant overlap in natural+injected immunity population, you have to now seek out those who have neither had an injection nor developed natural immunity in order to have a true immune free test subject. Given the glorious healthcare system in the US, that could be a challenge... Most have been infected with immunity, one way or the other. Maybe hit up the third world for lab subjects? Hmmm, they might not be a good source either since they were stinkers and treated their people with inexpensive, off patent meds before the injections they couldn't afford were available and thus aren't free from immunity either. Quite the quandary to overcome.

Comment Re:can't see this going down well. (Score 0) 248

There is also indications that the improper storage of aspartame, it breaks down at body temperature and higher, that was in food and beverage supplies sent over and consumed by personnel might be a significant contributor. Breakdown products include several molecules that do rather nasty stuff to organs, immune system, and neural system. Make sure the aspartame in the foods you eat and drink doesn't get too warm... Hmm, did they store the aspartame next to the depleted uranium and make a two-fer?...

Comment Re:Largely proven right ? (Score 0) 248

By the US numbers: 800000/331800000 == .0024, about 0.24% of the population died vs 99.76% that didn't. Why did the 0.24% die? They didn't get treatment at the viral stage that would have saved them from immune system failure that did the actual killing. Why did they not get treatment? Because we had to wait for 12 months for a specific technology before officially acting?... At least now we miraculous have patented oral treatments that can be used in the viral stage! Too bad such things didn't exist back in the summer of 2020, so many lives would have been saved and much hospitalization misery prevented. Oh wait...

Comment Re:Optimised to the bone vs. proved to work (Score 0) 248

Do you have additional data to back up the statement that "the science was done right"? By some other source than one that is tainted with conflict of interest? i.e. follow the money that actually paid for the studies/data... There is already at least one legal case pending that the mRNA studies were NOT done right; i.e. data was corrupted and worse, basic medical hygiene practices weren't adhered to, sharps handling process, by the firms contracted to do the studies. Fundamentally the process for general injection distribution was also bogus: Immunity status was not checked for the general population getting the injections; i.e. what REALLY provided the immunity. If you don't know if the person was immune BEFORE the injection, you can't accurately determine what the injection did or did not do. No followup was done for most injections given to the general population; what were the categories of reactions in what populations. Important since mRNA framework assumes the clamped spike protein will be properly created by all individuals cellular machinery. What happens in individuals whos cells don't reproduce the proper clamped version of the spike protein? What mutations are created by differing cell machinery? are the mutations more/less dangerous? Old school vaccines were created outside the body and could be verified as correctly producing the desired particles. mRNA wasn't verified for each individual in the general public nor has any serious attempt been made to do so in the population at large. As for the emergency situation that required "extreme" measures. That was the result of not properly treating the 0.4x% of the population in the viral stage that then had fatal immune response later on.

Comment Re:How about natural immunity. (Score 0) 227

You do understand "cattle dewormer" was given to humans for anti-viral/bacterial/fungal/parasite treatments for quite a while before it went off patent and thus became cheap enough for animal use? Given there were dozens of studies, NOT done by big pharma related organizations/individuals, showing various anti-viral/bacterial/fungals effectivity against SARS-COV-2 before the EUA was granted, your mockery actually shows your lack of understanding about the viral stage of the infection and how to manage it. The ONLY reason effective oral treatment, i.e. pills, of the viral stage wasn't common practice in the first world by late summer 2020 is because big pharma had no patented solutions at the time. NOW they DO have solutions so you'll see a big push toward those "miracle" pills since they are an overall bigger money maker and cheaper to make than injections; MUCH better profit margins in pills and also easier to convince people to pop pills for sickness than roll up their sleeves for a shot. What makes a virus ordinary vs non-ordinary? Aren't they all unique instances? You do understand that the most vigorously "required" vaccines previously were far more stable viruses than the infamous corona family? Take a look at the effectivity data from past flu vaccines to understand why corona family is such a squirrely bunch when it comes to vaccine targeting. On a more serious note: Given that the family of viruses has been endemic for well over a year now, how the heck are you going to PROVE the virus was specifically from work and not dozens/hundreds of other interactions the individual encountered before work? Any halfway decent defense lawyer will make mincemeat out of your case and the judge will be annoyed you wasted their time with such sillyness...

Comment Re:How about natural immunity. (Score 0) 227

It's a corona family virus, like its cousins in the cold and flu realms, it will forever more keep re-infecting humanity with flavor-of-the-quarter variants not matter how many more injections you have/don't have. Why do people think vaccine induced immune programming is somehow more majical that innate programming that has been around forever? ( Other than big pharma marketing pushes and owning of regulatory/political arms of most of the western governments?)

Comment Re:How about natural immunity. (Score 0) 227

Technically, the non-viral phase of the infection is targeted with various cocktails which can include immune suppressive drugs/compounds. Most people don't understand that death usually comes from the immune system not calming back down after clearing the virus out although the spike proteins and incorrectly synthesized spike proteins can cause some nasty damage. The viral phase can be treated with various anti-virals, monoclonals, and physical attempts at reducing viral load; nasal and throat flushing etc to let the immune system have time to take hold. With a 99.5+% survival rate, it would be interesting to find out for REAL what the most common co-morbidities are in death cases and try to work on eliminating those to get the death numbers down; society seems to be steadfastly ignoring comorbidity almost as much as natural immunity in this whole mess though.

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