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Comment Jabs and politics aside... (Score 2, Informative) 698

Jabs and accute politicking aside, the two men offer very different ideologies and views on life. Whereas Joe Biden says "privatization" like it is a bad thing, to Paul Ryan "government's control" is the worst curse.

Having grown up in the USSR with first-hand experience of government's control of economy, I would've preferred Ryan even if he did not look so persuasive and hands-on and even if Biden has not shone his uber-smile in such unsettling manner all the time.

Last, but not least, I still remember Biden's sequence of idiocies (no, not gaffes) from 4 years ago...

Comment Re:"in the year of our lord, Jesus Christ" (Score 1) 857

To me that suggests that he was a politician taking actions to shore up public relations in an area where he perceived himself both weak and under attack.

Well, that explanation would confirm, that, at least, the rest of the nation was very Christian, whether the politician himself was or was not... If we weren't a Christian nation, then in front of who did Jefferson "pretend" to be a good Christian (sincerely or not)?

I do see a trend here... The deniers of Christianity's role in America seem to have two conflicting arguments: they reject the religion's role in our history, while at the same time lament its "undue influence"...

Comment Re:What about MY right to not listen?.. (Score -1, Troll) 698

One right you do NOT have is to not be offended.

What's that supposed to mean? That I must be offended? You bet I am...

So fuck off.

Oh, how clever! The discussion is about swearing, so I must swear, get it?

The invitation extended above to another anus, applies to you as well... Be sure to get yourself wiped first, though...

Comment Re:What about MY right to not listen?.. (Score 0) 698

I'm offended by people proselytizing their God. Do I have the right to have them ticketed or hauled away, too?

If your city decides, proselytizing is a civil offense as the City of Philadelphia decided, swearing is, your city's police may ticket them...

I repeat my example of the FCC regulating swearing. Their power to do that was challenged, but continues to stand... Philadelpia's action is only more defensible, because FCC is empowered by Federal Congress to whom the First Amendment directly applies, whereas the locales have more freedom in enacting laws, even though we extended the "Congress shall make no law" to lesser governments too a while ago.

Comment "in the year of our lord, Jesus Christ" (Score 0, Troll) 857

It's just traditional formula.

He didn't have to spell the formula out in full. That he did it anyway, does suggest, he was perfectly "in" Christianity — as is the GP's point.

BTW, every President since has also been a Christian. The current one was, reportedly, quite devout too — at least, until he moved to the capital.

Submission + - First Anarchist's Cookbook Convictions (

analysethis writes: In the UK last month the author/compiler of the well-known-in-internet-circles 'terrorist handbook' pleaded guilty to seven counts of collecting information that could have been used to prepare or commit acts of terrorism, with a maximum jail term of 10 years. Today the first people caught with downloaded copies have been put behind bars — a white supremacist father and son pairing getting 10 & 2 years respectively, convicted of three counts of possessing material useful for acts of terror. How many will be emptying their recycle bins after this conviction?

As of writing, the book is still freely available on to buy.

Comment Re:Where the money goes (Score 1) 363

So you're saying whatever government entity is doing this work is going to run out of diseases and ailments to cure? Doesn't sound too bad to me.

Of course it does not sound bad — whether the entity is governmental or private. My response was to the sentiment, that medical research must run by the government, because, somehow, government's employees are not as worried about losing their jobs, as the private industry ones...

The illogic goes like this:

  • There is no money in cure, because, once everyone is healthy, people stop paying.
  • Corporations care only about money.
  • Corporations aren't looking for cure (worse, if they accidentally find one, they'll sabotage it).
  • Therefor, all medical research must be done by the government.

I posit, that this cynical line of thinking is just as attributable to government as corporate managers... At least, corporations have to compete with each other, whereas the government can simply outlaw the competition...

Comment Unions are monopolies (Score 0, Troll) 110

and we can't possibly think in shades of grey or make exceptions where needed.

Ever heard of the Ptolemaic model of the world? It seemed correct, but new and new facts required more and more exceptions until collapsing under their weight. Once you begin talking about "shades of grey" and "exceptions where needed", you admit, your model is junk...

And surely stuff like a bunch of women unionizing will all be an evil bunch

The workers wanting to bargain collectively aren't evil — they are doing, what's best for them. What is evil are the laws, that recognize unions as anything more than a group of people willing to associate with each other... No such laws should exist. A "union" of New York City transit workers should have no more legal recognition, that the community of Slashdot posters.

Moreover, given that unions are organizations set up with the explicit goal of maintaining and raising the price of what their members are selling (their own labor), they should be viewed as monopolies, subject to "trust-busting" laws.

If Staples and Office Depot were prevented from merging with each other for fear, the price of office supplies would go up, why do we allow our supply of healthcare, education, transportation, as well as crime- and fire-fighting to be controlled by the price-fixing monopolies?

Wake me up when you have an argument that actually applies to genetic testing

My argument, for the last time is that we are all employers, and, when considering any employment-regulating law (such as the ban on the use of genetic-testing by employers, implicitly suggested at the top of this thread), we should apply it to ourselves from the other end too: do I want this (or similar) law to control my interactions with all these people I hire: food takeout, gardener, nanny, cab-driver?

For a particular example, I don't want my nanny to have above-average incidence of sickness — even it is not contagious — because, any time she can't show up, I have to skip my work. So if, when interviewing candidates, I can quickly check their health, I'd want to be able to do it. This makes me sympathetic to the other employers wanting healthy employees. Someone of poor health may try to compensate with something else (higher productivity, better education, willingness to accept lower pay, whatever), but any bans on the use of any criteria are just that: Illiberal.

Comment Re:Also, one more thing (Score 1) 110

You don't seem to understand this newfangled "burden of proof" concept.

It would've mattered in court. In our argument it is not as important, because it is not, what my point hinges on. The one-hour minimum overtime was just an example of a possible absurd rule.

If you actually support the claim, sure, then it stops being BS.

Are you, actually, denying, that the gross abuses in the Union-contracts exist? More like are simply trying to bog me down with this meaningless nit-picking... Here are some overtime-related examples for you:

The last two, in particular, blow up your entire argument about employees "not caring" for employees, and "forcing" to work overtime... The examples show, how the unions consider the overtime rules as a "benefit".

Of course, you know, my example was valid. BS here is produced by you — at least, the bulls produce it through proper orifices...

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