At one point you could run m68k/PPC classic MacOS Apps and PPC/x86 OSX apps on the same machine with OSX 10.4 Tiger. Apple has always maintained a damn good degree of backward compatibility until recently when they dumped 32-bit app support in OSX. Which may have been to make writing Rosetta 2 easier for the ARM transition. Then they only have to support translating x64 code instead of legacy x86 shit. But they have warned people at least and the changes are not unreasonable to drag the industry forward finally. I'm glad ARM has become a viable desktop CPU architecture again since the demise of Acorn and Intel's goofy architecture is losing dominance.

Yep, that's why Apple's bottom of the barrel low end desktop is slaughtering most existing Wintel space heaters in performance. Some people just want a real desktop UNIX box with decent commercial app availability that doesn't require a month of effort tweaking shit to get a nice productive desktop environment and workflow.

You could actually run A/UX on the SE/30 which was actually quite slick. Classic Mac UI, can run MacOS apps and X11 apps side by side. Dated but was a beautiful environment. Being SysV based it was priced out of the typical desktop market due to UNIX licenses being stupid expensive back then. I actually liked it more than OSX in ways. If it weren't for licensing fees it could have been a contender.

Exactly. I actually like GIMP's UI even if it's a bit dated. To me flipping between full-screen single pane apps is a step backwards. I use multiple monitors, often have multiple apps open, drag and drop objects between them to get things done, etc. Just because the average user is computer illiterate and a moron doesn't mean we have to cripple all of our desktop apps until they look and act like useless poke and drool tablet apps. Modern UI's suck across the board. I was incredibly fast and productive with the classic desktop paradigm. Crippling computers so they require no learning curve or computing skills is not the way things should be done. GIMP has some warts but it is still my go-to for quick image editing.

Atari beat them to the punch several years earlier in 1979 with the 400/800 and Apple with the Apple II in 1977. Atari's machine was also much more user friendly, had a bus similar to USB in functionality and actually had a much more usable ROM OS and DOS. The C64 was just cheap garbage that happened to have some cool hardware sprites that were nicer.

Competing app stores and sideloading are not allowed on iOS devices.

I have a lot of fond memories of attending NOVATARI user group meetings as a young kid during the 80s and early 90s. My dad bought some shiny new STs and got me an 8-bit XE to keep me off his new toys. He hosted their Michtron BBS (ARMUDIC) for quite some time. I went to meetings regularly and hung out mostly on the 8-bit side. I learned a ton about computing from those guys and they really got me interested in programming and digging deeper into my machine. Used hardware was usually for sale and they had swap meets for software. Developers regularly showed up to demo their new warez. It was actually quite cool. I'll agree that YouTube has effectively made the groups obsolete but it felt like the nerd and hacker community was a lot closer and more welcoming in those days. And people used to have a much more intimate knowledge and desire to learn more about their cool toys back then.

Things were more fun since everything was still new. I miss those days.

Atari made cool shit back then. So did Commodore, the Amiga was cool at least. I still fire up my modded 800XL and 4MB 1040STf once in a while. At least now we still have sites like AtariAge full of people all over the world still cranking out software and hardware for these machines. I even bought an IDE controller for my XL from a user there a while back.

I think without user groups and magazines the home computer would have been DOA. They kept the less mainstream platforms alive for a long time.

Are you trolling or are you just a fucking retard? The only troublemakers seem to be appointed cronies these days that get installed just to cause chaos. Corruption should not be applauded. Especially when said corruption costs the taxpayers even more money and sabotages efforts to maintain a free, open and functional internet.

Pretty sure a lot of Chinese folks thought they deserved the bombs. Don't engage in total war unless you are prepared to reap what you sow.

Maybe things like the Rape of Nanking and their treatment of POWs was a bad idea? Their doctors engaging in experiments that made Mengele look like a boy scout? Their treatment of civilian populations every place they invaded? Systematic horrific rape and murder of civilian women, children and even the elderly? Nailing people to boards and running them over with tanks?

I won't try to justify it with "the bombs saved thousands of lives". I simply say they deserved every bit of what they got and the alternatives were probably worse.

I'm sure if we had let the Russians invade their civilian population would have fared so much better. I'm sure they would have loved becoming Soviet Japan as well.

I would have pushed the button myself. Repeatedly. And slept just fine.

You might not. But this is more a class warfare issue. The cops shoot plenty of addicts, the mentally ill and the homeless.

Basically anyone that people in gated communities fear or pity is a target. And especially people that don't have the resources to fight back.

Are you retarded? Some of us were actually there. Other than some developers dragging ass it went far smoother than any attempts by PC clone makers attempting to make the PC suck less.

680x0 -> PowerPC went phenomenally well. Even on the cheapest PowerPC Macs, performance running emulates 68k software was pretty damn impressive.

PowerPC -> Intel went quite well too even though the early Core Duo wasn't all that impressive compared to the high end G5 machines still around at the time.

The transitions went great. My only complaint is they didn't keep classic mode and Rosetta around in subsequent OS revisions. Having to install an emulator for classic apps isn't as seamless and nice and there were some really old apps I wanted to keep around. Being able to run 68k/PPC/Intel Mac software, X11/CLI *NIX software and Winblows applications via Parallels on the same machine relatively seamlessly was pretty fucking special.

Are you fucking retarded?! Machine code is raw binary. When you toggle in a program using octal/hex/binary opcodes and data using front panel switches or even in software (debugger, hex editor, ML monitor, etc), that is certainly not "assembly language". Assembly is a layer of abstraction above that.

Assembler is not a high level language but it certainly is not machine code.

Everyone over 35 here is laughing hysterically at you. Such righteous indignation only to be so naive and wrong. Especially those of us who have ever patched binaries by hand or cracked games in the old days.

Nope, it's about class warfare. They shoot unarmed addicts, the mentally ill and homeless people without cause as well regardless of skin pigment. Basically any undesirables the Karens in gated communities fear or pity and don't want to look at. They are cowards who just want an excuse to be violent against people who can't fight back.

Systemic racism does exist though. Black folks are more likely to be suspected of a crime or stopped by the cops. They also tend to get far harsher sentences. In the end though, cops kill more white people every day if you look at the numbers.

3.... I assumed everyone posting here understood binary.

Atari machines had MS BASIC available as a cartridge and a floppy version. They just couldn't squeeze it in 8K for the machine's release. Atari BASIC was slow but had some advantages in ways.