Sorry, my bad. Didn't see that part about GNOME3 devs dying. I concur with the points before that.

His problem is the GNOME3 team's UI, which is GNOME Shell. GNOME3, aside from UI changes did improve things a lot, but a total divorce from GNOME2's UI is not easily forgivable. And the dependence of GNOME Shell on GDM doesn't improve matters.

I'm confused. I see why if you want to write something in Java, it should be in a .java file, but the converse shouldn't hold. After all, it could be C++ and if I had a compiler which ignored the extension, it would compile as well. Oracle doesn't own the .java extension, and Google is free to use it as it pleases. Until they say it's Java, it isn't Java. You merely assume from the extension that it's Java, however unfortunate (and common) that assumption would be.

And Google calls it Java? Also, only the Dalvik bytecode part makes it incompatible, the others merely render it incomplete. If Google had promised a complete implementation, I'd see the problem. Android uses the Java syntax and part of the API. Don't call that Java (and Google doesn't, either). Using files with extension .java doesn't imply Java support.

So remind me how Google make an incompatible implementation of Java?

Might be something with the installer. The three pcs I used it in, I tried the portable version. Didn't need to edit any inis. Indigo and Juno detected Java on my Linux box fine, and on Windows using the GUI (with Ganymede, Indigo and Juno) worked fine. But then again, I have trouble getting Juno to look half-decent in my laptop even after editing CSS. Indigo worked fine, though.

LOL.. what version of eclipse are you using? -0.1? I'm using a three-year-old version, and I can add a jdk through the GUI.

I disagree that it is niche. With two (admittedly major) things, this could be the Linux distro to take over the desktop. A decent setup program and corporate backing. Seriously. If I could Google how to do X and be able to apply the solution for any distro on mine, just think about how much would that simplify things for grand mas and granddads. Corporate backing to push vendors to pre-install it and get companies to use it. I understand that it's a long way out. A unified front. That said, I wish you the best and I hope that I can get to contribute in some way in the future (too much of a n00b/scaredy-cat to venture into an open-source project now).

And you most certainly shouldn't hold his breath.

BIOS screen doesn't prove anything.. I dual (quad?) boot with two instances of Ubuntu, one of Win7 and one of Win8. Usually, there's only one entry for both WIndows in GRUB, WIndows 8. Sometimes after selecting Win8 from GRUB, it goes directly to Windows 8 instead of waiting for the choice on 7/8, almost as if Windows 8 had slept/hibernated/resurrected. And in such instances I am invariably logged in. Has happened about 4 times so far. But no problems before or after booting.

There is the possibility that it's a book on the whiskey, or related to it, when it's not.

What start-up remains one for 10 fucking years?

Not if all they care about is getting multiple cases on, damaging the reputation of the target quickly. The quality of the cases themselves doesn't matter much, except for the important few.

"Perception of risk" != "Existence of risk". Using agents to incite riots in a mass gathering (say, by pelting stones) is an extreme example of what's happening here. The harm in pelting those stones is limited to non-existant, but the people don't see it that way and the end result is much worse.

If you have to deal with only one case or one opponent, instead of a whole swarm of lawsuits and troll companies, expenses go down and things become easier to manage, plus the uncertainity involved (a key element of FUD) also goes down.