unrelated topic moron

those are interesting anecdotal edge cases that don't say much about the vast majority of problems with drinking and driving

obviously the asshole cop should have been more understanding with your wife, and if you want to drink and tip your mower and chop off your fingers, whatever makes you happy

assuming a good cop, and a well-meaning suspicion to apply the test (the vast majority of situations), there will be people who take the test and pass, and go on their way

it's impossible for a cop, a human being not a computer, to only apply the tests when they know for 100% certainty someone is drunk. that's why they do the test, to turn their suspicion into a certainty. it's a valid policy in the field to back up the suspicion with the test

so avoiding the test means you get to spend more quality time with law enforcement rather than get on with your life, which doesn't seem like good advice to me

now for the other kind of situation: the bad cop (the much smaller amount of situations)

this guy wants to railroad you. in which case, i'm not sure taking the test, or not taking the test, makes much difference. you can take the test, and he can muddy the results, and you're screwed. or you can choose not to take the test, and you get to spend much more quality time with a guy who wants to screw you over

they have to take you somewhere where the test will be applied in the presence of other people, to a higher standard of quality, which usually means that if you pass, you're good to go and you made the right choice. but now you've wasted a lot of time of your life. additionally, that time is spent alone with a guy who is looking to screw you over. faking or muddying a test isn't the only option he has to do that. maybe he'll find you in violation of some other trumped up charges. you've given him the time to be nosy, and you've pissed him off by refusing the field test. it's a lose/ lose situation if you run into a bad cop, and whatever you choose to do is only going to wind up with a different kind of pain

so i guess what you have to do is decide up front as quick as possible if you are dealing with a good cop or a bad cop. if a bad cop, maybe don't take the test. but look out for some pain anyways

lol

nice point

the dystopian fantasy of laws against swearing, being somehow as arbitrary as real world laws against drinking and driving, is a comparison that only works in your feeble mind

your comment simply reveals more of your low character, attempting to weakly rationalize the irresponsible

the grave, grave crime of using potty words has nothing to do with drinking and driving. that you submit they are is a sign of desperation to make a valid argument, or you are genuinely low iq

assuming you aren't stupid, and just stubborn when proven wrong, then all i have to say is welcome for the education about reality

try to be more responsible in your life, and next time, show some true character and just admit when you're wrong, you immature piece of shit

well thank you for changing the subject and randomly making me the bad guy in a scenario that has nothing to do with what i am saying, douchebag

if you're going to hijack the fucking topic, have the decency to note that you are changing the fucking topic

you're an irresponsible douchebag

you don't drink then drive

period. ever. no excuses or explanations

your lame self-serving weak rationalizations only reveal your poor character

if you drink and then drive, you are an irresponsible asshole and you deserve punishment. yes, it is actually that binary

human's aren't binary, but the choices we make can place us pretty clearly in the wrong. drinking and driving is exactly such a choice

So, the mere act if driving through a checkpoint is good enough reason to require you to stop your car, get out, take time out of your day and schedule to do some test because of an arbitrary head count.

that's not what i said, asshole. in fact it is the exact opposite of what i said. i said assuming the officer of the law has a good reason to apply the test

you can't completely reverse the meaning of someone's comment and reply to them

if you're drunk your judgment is impaired you dumb fuck. including your ability to gauge how impaired you actually are

you don't drive after drinking. ever. quibbling about what actually constitutes being drunk is an immature douchebag attempting to avoid responsibility

frankly, the really only valid response to the attitude and character you expose in your comment is for you to go choke on your mother's cock. you are the problem in this world, to be so cavalier with responsibilities that can easily result in the death of others

in fact, you are the reason the nanny state exists

it exists not because cartoon notions of statist authoritarians who want to take your freedoms away just for shits and giggles exists. but because some people with your attitude are so obviously irresponsible, with your weak self-serving rationalizations, that you *need* a nanny. you really do. you're an immature irresponsible piece of shit. that's what your comment reveals about your character

only 1 in 10,000 anonymous coward comments are intelligent

yours isn't that comment

if all law enforcement officers are all cartoon goons out to violate your rights via lying and cheating, you would be right

since that is a cartoon universe that only exists your head, you're simply revealing your feeble grasp on reality

there are bad apples in law enforcement. they aren't that prevalent, and they aren't out to get you

paranoid schizophrenia has treatment options. good luck to you

get a cab. take the bus. walk. arrange for a friend to drive, before or after. sleep it off at the location. get a hotel. prop yourself up on the side of the wall. all options infinitely better than driving drunk

while poor urban planning and poor civil engineering may explain why there are more drunk drivers in a given area statistically, it is no *individual* excuse nor explanation. suburban sprawl simply exposes more of the irresponsible douchebag fraction of society to limited transportation options, yes. if they were responsible, they still would not drive, no matter how much the transportation sucks. but because there are so many irresponsible assholes in the world, yes, there are more drunk drivers in florida

which is simply an argument against living in florida

assuming the officer of the law has a good reason to apply the test, then they pass it, and there is no problem

failing a BAC because of a medical condition is not driving drunk, you moron. you don't win an argument by changing the topic

Also, to all those that would throw away everyone's liberties in the search of a small modicum of safety: fuck you.

the most frequent defiler of your freedoms and liberties is not cartoon authoritarian jackboots working for big government. it's the irresponsible douchebags you run into in your life who will take your property, your health, your life. simply because they think freedom means freedom from responsibility. in fact, there is no such thing as freedom without responsibility

and those who often do the most damage to the notion of freedom are not your cartoon notions of statist authoritarians, but social retards like yourself who think freedom means there is no such thing as consequences for *you* defiling the freedoms of those who have to live near you, share the roadway with you, work with you. you damage the notion of freedom by showing there are morons out there who don't even know what freedom is. and when you defile the freedom of others, do you know what society does? it limits your freedom, up to and including prison. as it should. to preserve the freedom of those of us who actually know what freedom fucking is: "i can do whatever i want, as long as i don't hurt anyone else"

you can't increase freedom in society when you allow people who are so egregiously stupid or malicious, that they constantly limiting the freedom of others they encounter with their behavior. freedom is not destroyed just by government. it is also destroyed by the irresponsible and the malicious and the social retards, which is the category you seem to fit into: people who don't have a grasp of what freedom actually means. it does not mean freedom from consequences and responsibility, and never did, and never will