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Comment Re:Everything? (Score 1) 289

I think his argument is that we don't know why the human mind exists, because we haven't fully explained how the brain works (in part because we haven't fully explained how physics works, but also for lots of other reasons like having an incomplete picture of even what the mechanisms in the brain are, let alone what the physics of them is) and until we do then we should keep our minds open to possibilities.

But on the other hand, you can go any distance down that rabbit hole and only the parts where we don't understand enough about the function of the brain or exactly what is consciousness are the parts worth arguing about in this context because they are sufficient. There's a lot we don't understand about how the brain works physically, and there's also a lot we don't have well defined about what it's even doing. We're not really prepared to decide what is or isn't intelligent.

Comment Re:Specs (Score 1) 97

Having Wacom is worth some significant money, so as long as it's a fully compatible Wacom digitizer that automatically makes this device worth quite a bit more than it would have been otherwise. This is especially true if it's their combo wacom+10 points touch setup. I'm not sure that with its processor this device it merits $700, it's a much better argument if it's the full Wacom.

I'm skeptical about the resolution, though. It is decent, but at this size I think it's going to fall short of expectations for a monochrome-only display. I'd like to have seen at least 300 ppi if it's going to be playing sketch pad.

Comment Re:Renewable != clean (Score 1) 79

All farming has been that way for over a hundred years. Hello, Haber process. Many billions live today who wouldn't otherwise if we still relied on manure and bat cave mining.

Humanure is exactly the right answer to this problem, although today it would be compromised by those pharmaceuticals so stable that the majority of them pass through the body unprocessed. This returns micronutrients necessary for life to fields where they can become part of foods again. We make some rough effort at this with sewage sludge, but that's often toxic to some degree for multiple reasons (processing just doesn't handle everything — the left over pharmaceuticals make an appearance here as well, along with all of the other things people put down their drains) so it's still not as good as just composting turds without flushing them.

Comment Re:People are thinking about the end of jobs (Score 1) 289

People who aren't prepared to change, will suffer.

This is a syllogism. We object to them because they add nothing to the conversation. In this case, it actually describes the problem we're talking about, so it only proves that you understand the topic of discussion.

One might argue, and this one is, that our goal should be to determine how we can reasonably both reduce and even limit the suffering. That is to say, there is a certain line we should agree we will not cross any time it can be avoided, and another line which we should at least strive for, and in my opinion we are failing on both counts. If we cannot agree to care for one another at the most basic level which is necessary for human life and ideally even coexistence, then how can we expect to agree on anything?

Comment Re:Hardly, we'll come up with new kinds of work. (Score 1) 289

Maybe because people without jobs can't buy things.
Henry Ford understood that by paying his employees well that he was not only incentivizing people to stick around to learn the skills to make good cars but also creating a future market for his products.

Noted Nazi sympathizer Henry Ford may have realized that, but he also thought he could help reshape society in his own image. Also, TPTB don't seem to realize that now. Wages haven't kept up with the cost of living for decades, let alone worker productivity.

I suspect that there's one thing a robot will never be able to do, at least not for a very very long time. A robot cannot create more humans.

The people at the top of the ziggurat believe that it's undesirable to have so many humans. As part of their own creation myth, they believe that the primary thing that's special about themselves is that they show up every day and apply themselves in a constructive way. Hence the rich guy in the news now for trying to prove that and winding up with health problems and abandoning the experiment instead. Who succeeds is much more a factor of who is lucky, as the most reliable predictor of economic success is the economic success of the parents, and we don't choose them.

That we still need a vast variety of humans to have a creative and developing future won't deter them from trying to depopulate us. They don't understand why that don't work specifically because understanding why it won't would require that they understand that they are special primarily in starting position on the board, and not in something inherent to them.

Comment Re:As bad as Trump... (Score 1) 289

Is Musk saying that if he can automate his car factories & eliminate the need for workers, he'll keep sending the paychecks to those workers he's laid off? Or does he mean that he wants to help turn the USA into history's biggest ever welfare state?

Becoming the biggest welfare state is the only viable goal for a society which is becoming ever more automated, which is the obvious outcome of ever greater technological development. You will always need smart people to solve problems, unless AGI is a) possible and b) malevolent, in which case it takes over and wipes us out as inconvenient. But again, that's not a viable goal.

As the computers get better, the value of having human workers do anything decreases until you actively don't want them to be involved because the machines have exceeded their capabilities, and the humans are just squishy meatbags which might get in the machines' way...

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