It is still available on my browser. Got the image from here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3322650&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=2

right after the "Holding his breath and doing his very best to imagine that the hooker is someone that looks marginally better and smells a whole hell of a lot nicer, Larry dives in. "

http://lpix.org/s/50483/13.gif

enough said.

> Their refusal to enable IPv6 support is having a bad effect on IPv6 adoption

Last time I checked, IPv6 adoption was under 1% of IPv4. IPv6 has its own merits when it comes to its low adoption.

Having Yahoo, wikipedia and mayor news sites is a good thing to try out before pr0n sites try ipv6. A breakdown on the latter could bring real panic.

I don't even have my real name on my FB account. :)

I'll put it simple: I have worked with two cards: some intel at work, nvidia at home. The "chess" screen saver when turning, whatever figure should be "behind" when turning, it always appeared "first" on the intel graphics card when it was actually "behind" in the perspective. Always worked on Nvidia. Don't know if that's solved now, but I never had an issue with nvidia.

The thing is that in a NAT environment, all sessions from an organization behind a NAT4 device, all they see is the NAT device IP address, and not the real IP address of the systems the user is at.

If in a IPv6 NAT-less world, you have a firewall, but no NAT, you see what each individual IP6 address likes or diskiles, regardless the span of a "session" . That could be interesting for folks like Google to do "analytics" on what you browse. Also, it could be interesting for other folks if they narrow down that IP6 address to a name.

Another hint: no NAT means you know what each address browses... loads of fun if you can pinpoint specific addresses within an organization! Now, what's all that bad rap about a unique internet ID in the US?

> I won't, since I don't think anyone is going to port scan me. >Here's an IPv6 address: 2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334, the bold bit is the local part. How much bandwidth is your script kiddie going to have to have to find 0000:8a2e:0370:7334 in the range 0-ffffffffffffffff? Simple, social engineering: just make some of those ip addresses "browse" a specific address you control, and you'll know specifically what each address is and fingerprint it. Loads of fun if you are or catch an ISP machine and what to "see" the little things some of your customers "browse"!!

>NAT is like having a chaperone, where all communication happens through a 3rd party. It increases network traffic, it makes peer-to-peer internet impossible. And it is not security. You only need to trick inside device to connect to outside device, and there goes NAT as security! And that is quite easy.

Mind to elaborate? Is there anything special in Ipv6 that makes a router any less hard to "trick"? Also, some NAT devices are not that easy to "trick" and have security certifications (Common Criteria).

on the other hand, in a NAT-less world, if you run a large organization, what good does it makes for an external web site or your ISP to know what each machine inside your network actually visits? Say you are a bank, or a .gob organization... now, instead of having all web access coming from one or two or three proxy/NAT addresses, you have a one-to-one connection from each pc in your network... is that difficult to "trick" someone you want to do something special now and address specific internal address of your organization from the internet?

I'm not against IPv6 itself, but the rage against NAT seems unjustified. If there's no need for it, it will go away alone. Now, there are people that might need NAT, as they don't want external addresses to "know" what each internal address of an organization browses or anything. For those, seems IPv6 is lacking some funtionality for no good reason.

>> The same reason you'd have to pay a second time to see a movie in theatre again, is it not?

No, I' guess there are different things if I'm using a theater: I'll be using again things such as HVAC, electricity, the seat, the guy that opens the door and proyects the movie. I should be able to get a discount if copyright stands. Otherwise, the copyright thing is just mumbo jumbo. I guess a format that wanted to charge every time I saw a movie died for a reason.

In any way the original poster is saying that the upgrade should be free, but if I own the right to see a movie at home in VHS or DVD, then the "price" should be cheaper for the upgrade as there is a portion of the product that I already own. Otherwise, oh $DEITY, I'd be forced to think that all those "download" trials based on copyright laws are just a big lie and all about people trying to make an easy buck on a corrupted law system!

> A $50 router and OpenWRT can do all of that.

...and without using some 300W worth of electricity.

This looks like something from a Nokia fanboy, but it has some interesting numbers: http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2010/12/some-symbian-sanity-why-nokia-will-not-join-google-android-or-microsoft-phone-7.html

"The analysts want to position Nokia against Apple, it makes for good drama and a fun parlor game. But then they don't do fair analysis of Nokia. Nokia is not competing against Apple. Nokia's business is the phones business. The PC industry sells about 300 million personal computers of which Apple had about 4% last year. Most of the computer industry last year was not 'mobile'. The mobile phone industry sells about 1.3 Billion handsets globally, and Nokia had about 38% of that last year. Yes, Nokia alone sells more mobile phones than the total global size of the personal computer industry worldwide."

Movistar in Argentina uses 10.x.x.x network addressing on Mobile phones last time I checked.

Close your eyes and repeat "Please do not repeat Star Wars prequels , please do not repeat Star Wars prequels". Let me rescue something from those years!