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Comment Re:So (Score 1) 1430

Most political systems have some degree of protection for rural areas to prevent them from being utterly steamrolled and dominated by the cities.

Very true, but we have that even without the Electoral College--we have individual constitutional rights that are supposed to serve that function. And if the "steamrolling" they fear is one that is political rather than tyrannical, I'm not sure why rural states should get to be "protected" from being in the minority as long as the thing being done doesn't violate those individual rights.

Consider the current situation, which more or less amounts to a tyranny of the minority, especially when you factor in the "southern states/rural states" Republican "majority" that exists despite not having received a majority of the votes in "The people's house" since 2010. In fact, they got fewer votes in 2012, 2014, and 2016 than they did in the "wave" election of 2010, but have vastly more seats after those elections than they got in 2010.

Tyranny by the minority is just as tyrannical as tyranny by the majority.

Comment Re:So (Score 1) 1430

Maybe its time to get rid of the entire union.....

Impossible--those flyover states also consume the bulk of the welfare dollars pad into by the productive coastal states. Break up the union, you create an instant refugee crisis for the productive states as unemployed rednecks who think "College is a scam so I ain't going--now where's my money-check?!?!?!" suddenly can't afford to exist because the productive big cities simply stop subsidizing them, as they're now part of a "different country."

Now, the possibility of "Regional autonomy" government solution (where the existing 50 states going one of several "provinces" that are governed separately, rather than at the Federal level) might be possible. ...But you still end up with basically the same problem: No province would want to get stuck with, say, Mississippi and Alabama, and Louisiana, the three lowest performing states economically and academically. Of the three, Louisiana is probably the "prize," what with the sea port and oil resources... But that's still not saying much.

Comment Re:Electoral college does reflect the popular vote (Score 1) 1430

Hillary Clinton won 300 counties while Trump won 5000. If you think that the election of a nation should be swayed by a handful of cities while the rest of the nation is completely ignored, well, you're an idiot.

Not so fast, Billy Bob... Some of those "counties" have fewer residents than single neighborhoods even a small city. So perhaps a better way to say it is "If you think rural voters are somehow so superior to city dwellers that they should get their way despite accumulating 2 million fewer votes for their preferred candidate, well, you're an idiot."

Comment Re:Working as designed (Score 1) 1430

So bottom line, slavery is defunct, so we no longer need to appease slave states

Ah, there's the "it's racist". Thanks for conceding the argument.

Ah, I see what you did there by failing to quote the second half of my point (where I acknowledged it "was racist" when used to that purpose, but isn't anymore now that it isn't.)

Racism/slavery wasn't the only reason the electoral college was instituted... It absolutely was racist when instituted, but since the "3/5" part of it was struck down by the 14th amendment, it's now just a pointlessly old fashioned contrivance to "protect us" from the tyranny of ill-informed rural voters, rather than racist.

A much better argument than racism for eliminating it is in the inequality of value assigned to votes. For example, it takes four times as many votes in Michigan to gain the vote of an elector as it does in Wyoming--which is complete bullshit which allows a state with barely any people a much louder voice for each of its citizens than far more populous Michigan. And it really sucks when you look at how many votes you need in California to get an electoral vote vs. one of the bullshit states.

Yes, I do think of small states as "bullshit." Having lived in Indiana lo these past 15 years I feel I can speak from a place of some authority when I say that.

Comment Re:Working as designed (Score 4, Insightful) 1430

It's working exactly as designed, striking a balance of power between the states. It's a concept we have in the congress, population based representation in one house and equal state based representation in the other. Without the electoral college the president would effectively be chosen by only a handful of states. The college ensures that all of the states have at least some effective say in the matter.

Two things...

Even with the electoral college, the President is being chosen by a "handful of states." Specifically, the three "Swing" states which put Trump over the top. Even worse, the outcome of the entire country's future leadership is based on less than 10,000 people in one state, less that 20,000 in another, and less than 35,000 in a third--a total of far under 100,000 votes in a nation where more than 120 million votes were cast. This is, more or less... a rounding error... A number of votes that could be cast (or not cast) if it rains on election day.

And second of all, the original "Balance of power" the electoral college was created to preserve was between free and slave states. Specifically, southerners would not have adopted the constitution if they thought that higher population northern states would have been able to control the congress, and the presidency, by virtue of their greater numbers. So they came up with the 3/5 compromise (that allowed slave states to count 60% of their slaves for the purpose of calculating their congressional representation, and by proxy, their electoral college representation,) and kludged it onto the electoral college to "protect" their interests in the Presidency.

Setting aside whether or not the electoral college is, in and of itself "racist," (I don't think it is anymore, although it was conceived as such) the real issue I have with it is that it's an anachronism that isn't necessary. Because the other justification for it is that rural areas in 1797 didn't have very good communications with the outside world, and might be enticed to accidentally vote for a dangerous tyrant that they were unaware was a dangerous tyrant.

So bottom line, slavery is defunct, so we no longer need to appease slave states, and today, rural states have access to the Internet and full communications parity with the rest of the world. Which means there's no more justification for the continued existence of the Electoral College.

Comment Re:Of Course (Score 1) 434

Restricting free speech is what the "hate speech" designation is all about.

Whose speech was "restricted"? This particular advertising network simply decided they no longer wish to sponsor this specific speech given the possibility that other advertisers would refuse to purchase ads through their network so as to avoid being associated with this sort of filth.

Yet if you load up tonight, their hate speech is still blaring away, going strong. So no speech has, in fact, been restricted--someone just told a group of obnoxious braying jackasses they're no longer willing to sponsor their braying.

Seems fine to me.

Comment Re:Should add HuffOp and Slate to the banned list. (Score 1) 434

They can't provide any examples and they aren't banning 5000 other websites that post comparable or more hateful articles.

I'm sure they "can" provide examples, they just choose not to.

Since they acted after receiving a complaint about Breitbart and conducted an audit, how about you report some of those 5000 other hate web-sites you believe they're running advertisements on. See what happens.

So they're lying, they're pushing a hidden agenda

You have zero evidence to support those conclusions.

For example, maybe they just aren't interested in having a never ending debate with the alt-right nutter brigade about what constitutes hate speech, and simply wish to disassociate themselves from a group of people promoting hate, bigotry, and misogyny to avoid potential backlashes from advertisers who don't want to be associated with that sort of filth.

Comment Re:So Go Ahead... (Score 1) 587

There's lotsa jobs with decent, but not breathtaking pay that don't require accumulating a huge debt - maybe they can be OK with being a welder, or a railroad locomotive engineer

What I always recommend to kids considering IT is to consider training as an elevator repairman. The job is totally protected from outsourcing--you cannot fix an elevator from India, under any circumstances, period, and the job pays six-figures in most U.S. labor markets. Plus, it mostly can't be outsourced to H1-Bs because it's a mechanical skill which does not qualify for an H1-B visa.

Comment Re:Difference in work product (Score 1) 587

Generally, the experience of companies that outsource successfully involves selecting only work that can be made rote (which also means, in a few years, it will be automated out of the hands of the third-worlders it's being outsourced to at present,) and only using roles that don't involve trusted access to sensitive data. I interviewed with a company that outsourced their "rank and file" IT workers to Indiana with one of the big scumbag companies out there (*cough* COGNIZANT *cough*) and they ended up keeping all the real skilled work and the sensitive stuff in house. Because it turns out, people who live in India aren't really subject to U.S. laws. So even though they could sue the pants off of the outsource contractor in the event of a breach, "getting" the person who did it (with a jail term, scarlet letter for life to prevent future gainful employment) would be much more complicated, maybe impossible.

And the other thing that I've noticed: They end up outsourcing at least twice as many Indians for every American, chopping any "per person savings" in half instantly (because there are twice as many of them.)

Maybe this won't ALWAYS be the case, but I think it will be for the foreseeable future because the thing is, the best educated, highest skilled Indians have already come to the U.S. to work, and don't want to be H1-B slaves and/or stuck in India--they want to be here to swing for the fences, economically speaking.

Comment Re:Bullshit defense (Score 1) 209

...and that's assuming nobody notices a voter shutting down the machine, opening the case, installing a PCMCIA card, and bringing it back up... Pretty dubious, if you ask me. The level of conspiracy required to give someone enough time to not be detected while doing that would almost require a totally compromised election process to begin with--and if you have that, why bother compromising the machines?

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