Most folks here seem to be saying that math is important to learn due to it's importance to other subjects; i.e. mathematical subjects like probability, logic, economics, or even non-mathematical subjects like English or law. It's been said here that if we learned the correct maths, we'd understand these higher subjects earlier and be harder for politicos to dupe.
It would seem to me that ditching some of the higher math in favor of integrating probability into math studies, logic into science studies and deeper economics studies during high school years would be quite a bit more valuable than ever learning geometry, trig, or calculus. At the very least, if math is so important to other subjects, why is there no grade school education focused on how these subjects tie into each other? Do we need to call in James Burke to develop a course for students to understand the practical applications beyond calculating your tips? Does anyone remember the single semester spent on economics in high school? I sure don't. And the reason is because our education is a joke.
For example, the math system used during my high school years was the UC Davis system. There were a ton of problems with it, but the biggest was a lack of examples from which to study with. On the surface this was bad enough, but the Davis system expected students to use applied learning to figure out more complicated problems in each chapter. With zero lessons on applied learning. Nor any labeling for which questions were more complex and required students to jump ahead and just figure it out. Oh yeah, and there were no answers included as the entire system was photocopied and students were expected to keep the pages in three ring binders.
Additionally, most folks are in their respective corners on education, in the red or blue trunks and ready to duke it out. They've all got someone to blame for our terrible school system, but when's the last time you heard someone bitch that a D is no longer a failing grade? That some students must learn without having a real book(physical or electronic)? No one politician or party has these things as their core concern regarding education because it's not germane to their ideology.
After years of being passed with D's and little to no help from my schools(at least till high school), I had piss poor grades because I spent all my time struggling with math. I was decent in science and history because I love science and history. I was decent in English because I love to read, thank god for my parents. I tested at a tenth grade reading level in the fifth and no one that knows me thinks I'm stupid - but my grades show someone that loved band and didn't give a shit about anything else.
Student tutors tried but I needed more help than they could give, which was too little and too late anyway. Had it not been for the help of a friend who was a math major in college, I'd never have passed on time. What schools need is less politics, and students need professional tutoring, real consequences for failing and real incentives for success. The best part of high school for me was electives, and at least I performed well in most of those subjects. However, almost none of it was real world experience, and I've only learned later in life that I don't want a career in computers. Career guidance is a joke, and everyone knows it. Career integrated electives showing what it takes to make it, which courses are important and how to integrate them, the duties of various professions and what to expect from a life in a given field will help students to succeed. I'd have had a good idea in high school that computers were not for me. I expect the argument will arise that this is just too difficult, but most of this information is not hidden, we read articles about the ins and outs of professions all the time. If more time was spent helping students to choose careers, I guarantee we'd have better performance from them.
As it is, I'll be studying for my CCNA to stay competitive over the next few years while I re-gear for the profession I really want. For now I suggest we provide students with basic necessities before we start with the gasbag ideologies.