They do talk a good game. The "patriotic millionaires" were so patriotic about wanting to pay extra taxes, that all of their voluntary contributions, plus that of every other US taxpayer with similar inclination, is coming to apprx. $3 million for the whole year. Pretend-crediting that amount solely to the ~200 self-identified "members", that's $15000 of generosity per patriotic millionaire. Gee, thanks a lot, guys.

According to that gang, the "fair share" from a rich person is always "more, more, more".

You are welcome to contribute to government treasuries any amount you like. Don't expect your neighbours to be quite so cheerful.

There's this risk in bringing in terms like "immoral and unjust" into any discussion of taxation. It is way too easy for someone else to argue the opposite position upon the same basis.

If you bring in value-for-money arguments like insurance, OK, but then you also ignite the ire of those who point out to what extent governments perform wealth-transfer, where the value of government to some class of entities is net highly negative -- quite possibly immoral and unjust.

"And some folks believe they should get a lot while giving very little."

Righto. So what it sounds like you're proposing is a cost-benefit balance for taxpayers-vs-government, so basically people get back in some sort of essential service just as much as they paid in.

Am I receiving your implication clearly?

"Some folks have this fantasy that you can get everything for nothing."

Some folks wish they got a lot less from government.
Some folks have this fantasy that they are entitled to someone else's money.

It must be nice to imagine being emperor of the world.

Might try asking Jimmy Carter, he probably knows this kind of stuff.
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/76/76ocarter.phtml

I'll let you know right after I try it.
You might have to wait a while - a lifetime, give or take.

"inside your ass..."

Strange, that has never happened to me.

To see how free information wants to be, just wait till other naughty objects show up in thingiverse.

It's called reading between the lines, and an (apparently futile?) effort at humor -- or is that humour.

You are welcome to send a bonus payment to your local electricity provider, if that will ease your guilt.

"The thing I hate about these comments, is the reverse is exactly true as well."

That's mighty clever, but no one was asserting anything contrary.
They are both dangerous, potentially disabling or lethal.
That's why the police are trained in applying the minimal force required that's consistent with the threat.

"[manhandling] would have caused a hell of a lot more long-term injury to her than simply getting tazed would."

It's not as though anyone has died from being tazed before.

Oh wait.