That's such a bullshit lie. I priced out all those things (including the cheapest ones for each part I could find) and the cost was 500 dollars. Besides you don't even mention the case or any DVD/CD/ drives, the network card, sound card or any other vital pieces of hardware for gaming. Adding in all those even with the cheapest parts push it over 600 dollars.

Nope, build my computers from wholesale parts.

Then run it around the baseboards to your router. It's really not that hard.

Then maybe you need to stop making such broad strokes with your statements. You said and I quote "Isn't it the 18 yos that are flocking to all these stupid sites?".

Where did anyone make the implication that you must be on any of those sites to be relevant? I guess I missed that.

The same was also said about email and IM just a decade or so ago too. Get off my lawn.

I like how you left out this important qualifier on my statement "If you want to play any games from the last couple of years". You aren't going to play anything recent like Crysis, Call of Duty 4, etc at a 720p level with an athlon 2800 and an nvidia 6800 unless you love getting only 10 fps.

Yeah and have fun not being able to play a whole host of modern games at decent quality.

I've never seen any person actually buy the WiFi accessory except for morons. And this is including a whole host of people I know who have 360s who aren't tech savvy. They just plugged their's in to a router via the wired connection. The GGP's attempt to add that in as if it was some sort of mandatory cost (on top of all the other nonsense) just makes the post entirely laughable.

So Mensa (which has a facebook page) is just a bunch of stupid 18 year olds?

It doesn't prove anything and it's not meant to prove anything. It's a way for people to stay in touch with people they can't do in person.

None of those costs are hidden and none of them are mandatory costs.

Unncessary to play the vast bulk of games. You can also get it for around 35/13 months by buying subscription cards. But if you want to play figures 15/month WoW subscription for 5 years = $900.

Already comes with the 360 unless you buy the crappy Arcade. But even still isn't necessary unless you play online which most games are single player anyway.

Or you can spend 6 dollars and get a set of rechargables.

Oh noes! Not 470 dollars!

If you want to play any games from the last couple of years you would have spent at least 670 if not more on your PC.

For some games. If you want to play any decent MMO you are going to pay way more in fees over the same 5 years than anyone would pay for a 360 pro and a 5 year subscription to Live. And they would have enough money left over to buy at least a dozen or more games in that same period and still come out ahead.

Yeah but it's going to cost you around 600-800 dollars to build a system (assuming you do it yourself) that will be able to do that. So basically your whole argument seems moot.

I'm still compiling the system you insensitive clod!

Neckbeard getting a bit itchy?

Because the last 15 years of Windows viruses/worms have shown that this view doesn't work?

Well then they should just buy the Ninnle SSL accelerator that is a octo-core rackmount server with 100GigE and only costs you 500 dollars. This is all thanks to the new innovations constantly coming out of Ninnle Labs.

Where exactly are you getting free broadband service from? Oh wait, you mean this was just some lame strawman argument?

Which is just the reviewers characterization of the author not a direct quote.

Yes it is.

Says a person who hasn't actually read the book but is relying on another person's characterization.

Actually you are. By saying that we should hide this information away from people because someone could do bad stuff with it is very much security through obscurity.

So you can read the author's mind to know that was his motivation to write this book? That's pretty astounding.

But a book that would help people protect themselves and how to fight against rootkits would contain just the same information this book does otherwise it would be worthless.

So then they should never post any reviews of any books on the topic of security? Pretty much any book that is going to teach you anything of worth in the are of security is going to have information to help those who want to write malicious code.

So we should just put our fingers in our ears and shut our eyes and pretend it doesn't exist? Yeah that's going to do all of jack and shit.

You would be wrong on all counts. Way to fail.