On a PDP-11/05 which is still standing (but not running).
Then to Apple ][.
It was the stepping stone for many coders of a certain vintage.

For the record, I wasn’t locked out of using any of my systems - only from using any of Apple’s online services. My Mac, iPad, and iPhone continued to work just fine and continued to allow me to run whatever applications I wanted.

Given that, you could apply your silly statement to every online service in the world, including here on /.

Yaz

It hit me right in the middle of a FaceTime call. Lost the call, was logged out of everything, and was then required to change my password. Wound up getting locked out, and had to use my wife’s iPhone to get an account unlock code from Apple. Changed password, and then had to go through all my devices to update the password to get back in.

Didn’t take up as lot of time, but really wasn’t something I wanted to have to deal with when it happened. But both my wife’s and my daughters Apple accounts were unaffected.

Yaz

... into the fire.

We went from knowledgable people on help desks
to people who can read the manual to you
to bots you have to game to get to a person who can read
now on to a bot that will likely stumble or hallucinate before solving the problem
*and even if I'm wrong* and they get as good as current conditions are
or heaven forfend better
we will be the beta testers / machine learning trainers

Running the health systems is completely the purview of the Provinces. The major requirements of the Canada Health Act are mostly in terms of what services are offered (so that we don’t have a nationally fractured system where basic procedures aren’t universal).

Other than that, there is the health transfer from the Federal Government down to the Provinces — but the Provinces aren’t supposed to rely solely on that transfer to fund their health care systems. And that money typically doesn’t come with any strings attached (other than it be used for healthcare).

Crumbling systems are entirely the fault of the Provinces. The licensing of Doctors happens at the Provincial level (albeit by the various Provincial colleges), training and education happens at the Provincial level, hiring of Doctors and Nurses happens at the Provincial level, and the construction of hospitals happens at the Provincial level. And those are the parts of the system that have been failing, and mostly because successive Conservative Provincial governments have been starving the system.

Yaz

The bulk of which aren’t due to the Federal government, as in Canada the provision of healthcare services is the domain of the Provinces.

It’s notable that two of the Provinces with the worst problems are led by Conservative Premiers, who have been dismantling health care systems in their Province as a way to try to bring in more American-style private for-profit healthcare.

Yaz

Much of this topic is a false dilemma. Thereâ(TM)s no reason to stop making manual transmissions. Want an EV car? Buy it. want a standard transmission? Buy it. automatic? Buy it. CVT? Buy it. A big part of the problem is that sales hype and cost are deep in the equation. CVT was supposed to be the perfect transmission. Infinite ratios, no wasteful shift points, etc. In fact, I have whatâ(TM)s probably one of the most heralded sedans in production, and it has fake shift points in the CVT. And the gas mileage is nothing special. A manual transmission car does what you want it to do, when you want to do it. You could be wrong about what you want, but at least youâ(TM)re connected. Hopefully my retirement car will be a Mk7 GTI.

We already have zero-touch deployment using Apple / MDM tools - the minute the device powers on *out of the box by the user* it starts its MDM / profile / services / app enrollment. Huge help for enterprise and edu. This new version does it inside the closed box for phones.

And HyperCard IIGS. Which was a 4-hour port from the Mac codebase.

Being "first to market" doesn't indicate something is unsafe or untested. Research into mRNA has been ongoing since the 1960s, and the first mRNA human vaccine trials started in 2001, with the first human clinical trials for a rabies mRNA vaccine starting in 2013.

In this case, "being first to market" is misleading, as mRNA vaccines already had 20 years of human testing by the time the first COVID-19 mRNA vaccines were approved.

Yaz

Hyundai’s keyfob does the same — but if you’ve parked at a mall (as one example) and are walking around with the keyfob in your pocket, the relay attack will work just fine (unless you’ve put the keyfob into a faraday pouch).

The motion sensor kill switch is great for when you’re at home and your key is in a drawer, but not otherwise.

Yaz

HOTP (and TOTP) wouldn’t help in this case, as it’s not that the authentication is being broken. The problem is that in allowing proximity alone to activate the authentication, you can create a simple RF bridge to fake the proximity portion. You don’t even need to parse the RF signal or bring it back into the digital domain — at their most basic, these devices aren’t snooping the authentication, nor doing a MITM attack — they just boost the signal from the keyfob, and relay signals from the car back to the fob, allowing the fob to authenticate even when it’s distant from the car.

The most mathematically perfect authentication in the world isn’t going to fix that. By allowing the convenience of allowing the car to unlock when the keyfob is apparently “near”, just by boosting the signal between fob and car when they’re not proximate allows those two devices to perform a normal authentication — and the device in the middle doesn’t even need to know how the authentication works, nor parse (nor try to hack/fake) the data being relayed. Better authentication doesn’t fix that — it’s an issue of the protocol making assumptions of proximity that are easily faked via basic signal boosting.

Hey, kinda like your post!

Yaz

The problem here is that the “real” key fob is still the one in this attack doing the authentication, so it will still work regardless.

The problem is that this authentication happens automatically based on proximity — and the attack fakes the proximity, and not the authentication. The authentication here is still real, and doesn’t need to be faked — they’re not doing a MITM attack, just providing a bridge such that the car thinks the fob is nearby, at which point they authenticate as expected.

Your proposed solution doesn’t fix this problem, as it’s not an authentication problem in the first place. The attackers aren’t faking the authentication, nor are they even providing it — they just provide an RF bridge to boost the signals such that the car and key think they are in proximity, at which point the car and key authenticate and unlock the vehicle.

Hyundai does at least have an automatic power-kill switch built into their fobs when they’re at rest; however I don’t know if this is in use in the UK (where it appears the majority of attacks of this sort against the IONIQ 5 are made).

Yaz

It is my understanding (as an IONIQ 5 owner) that Hyundai already has a partial solution in that once the fob is still for a few seconds, it effectively shuts itself off completely (and powers back up when it detects motion again).

This is great for a situation where you’re at home and your key is in a drawer, but isn’t as ideal in a situation where you’ve parked away from home and are walking around within relay distance with the key in your pocket — in which case it will remain powered on and can be relayed.

Yaz

Science makes no such claim. Indeed, science has yet to fully encapsulate what it means to be “alive” in the first place.

So stop claiming that science says what you want it to say, just because that’s the result you desire. That in and of itself is not science.

Yaz