Future scientists can study it to try to understand the menticide of the early 21st Century.
By the way, can you add Troll to the comments filter? That would allow a quick read of the intelligent posts on a thread such as this.
Well, my college president welcomed me to the ranks of learned men so I can produce some evidence I am not a complete moron. And I worked in a cell bio lab and followed the science for a year. And I took horse paste when on the verge of suffocation from a dry cough. And got better in a few hours.
Give Zoltar money and he will do a double-blind randomized control trial.
Actually no, I would not consider giving a placebo when ivermectin has such a good treatment record.
And I can't resist, F you and the horse you rode in on!
Get your facts straight. The vaccines are authorized for emergency use. Legally there is a world of difference between authorized and approved.
Yes, comerty has been approved but not available in the US. But it is really the same as the Pfizer shot. Except for some minor liability issues.
I think i see where the smooth-brained are here...
and chronic Lyme disease. Censorship of anecdotes about ivermectin helping this or that condition is routine, particularly when a vaccine is in the works. After the Lyme vaccine was recalled the same thing was going on with horse paste. Support groups were created. Books were written. People said they were cured. All anecdotal of course, no one wants to fund research into a cheap drug.
Get a prescription for the human version, you say? Medical providers are indemnified against any damages if they follow the federal treatment guidelines. They are explicitly liable for any bad outcomes if they use an unapproved treatment. That is why hospital administrators forbid ivermectin usage without a court order. Pharmacists won't fill prescriptions unless pressured. I expect big pharma carefully tracks those who do and get across the idea that is not good for their business.
So the veterinary version it is, for most that research IVM and ask their doctor about it, to get the answer "we don't use that here". Not hard to find the products with IVM only (no other active ingredients). And the dose is not hard to figure.
I suspect those poison center calls (if they really exist) were from worried family members who disagreed with someone using the animal product. And I suspect the usual answer to them (assuming they did not drink sheep drench or a gallon of high strength injectible) was not to worry, IVM is a very safe drug.
“Our policies do not allow content that claims that hydroxychloroquine and / or ivermectin are effective in treating or preventing Covid-19, claims that there is a guaranteed cure for Covid-19, and claims that masks do not work to prevent the spread of Covid-19. virus, “YouTube said in a statement.” This is in line with guidance from local and global health authorities, and we update our policies as guidance changes. “
Soon you can type "A Saturday afternoon in November was approaching" and watch the rest of your story unfold without the silly fits and starts!
The solution to misinformation is more information, not censorship.
You are using the old obsolete definition of herd immunity. The shiny new one requires vaccination. Don't feel bad, you are not alone.
Haseltine a couple of months ago:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/w...
"Prevention of infection is not a criterion for success for any of these vaccines. In fact, their endpoints all require confirmed infections and all those they will include in the analysis for success, the only difference being the severity of symptoms between the vaccinated and unvaccinated."
Not preventing infection or death, or even the more severe symptoms.
Don't know if that is still his opinion.
Yep. And it can vaporize with low temperature heat not useful for other purposes (river heating?).
As one develops cloudy lenses (common after 60yo) one sees halos around bright points. These halos overlap and reduce the apparent contrast of the dark areas.
I use the "Dark background and light text" plugin for Firefox. Much more comfortable for reading text. I hardly notice the dark halos!
So 20%-40% of the population having been infected is enough for herd immunity?
Add to that the people who have T cell resistance, and clear the virus without developing antibodies. Could be as many as 50%
Dr. Scott Atlas is not an infectious disease expert.
Perhaps he read some papers about it. And people can be right without being experts. And paraphrasing the old maxim, it's hard to get experts to understand something, when they get paid to not understand it.
The real infectious disease experts say that 70%-80% will be the threshold. And that's notwithstanding that the disease is still *far too recent* to have any data on whether immunity will last.
50% T cell immuity + 20% antibody immunity gets that threshold. T cell response from 2002 SARS-CoV-1 infection still exists. Some studies suggest 75% of asymptomic "cases" have T cell response but no antibodies. If antibodies do fade, continued exposure can quickly bring them back. Usually as a mild case, in other coronaviruses.
With a case fatality rate of ~2.5% in the US, you will be looking at 5-6 million deaths before herd immunity is reached. Even if you somehow made the CFR drop to 1%, you'd still be looking at millions of deaths.
You are conflating case fatality rate with the much lower infection fatality rate. Cases traditionally required symptoms or a visit to a doctor. Now anyone who tests positive is erroneously called a "case". To be sure, half a million people could die "with" the coronoavirus. I doubt a vaccine would change that number much, if one is ever produced.
Somehow? Fauci suggested Vitamins D3 and C. The one percent you assert is capable of understanding can search for others, they may find zinc and flavenoids such as HCQ.
I suggest more than 1% can think on their own. Used to be a lot more when grandparents passed along their experience, but still more like 50%. The nanny state is busy reducing that number.
As far as exposure to virus...go outside and breathe. If you are still alive after a week, you have a functioning immune system.
So, nothing specific, just "Everything"?
What is criminal is the CDC avoids any discussion of boosting the immune system. Per their page, "The best way to prevent illness is to avoid being exposed to this virus".
Um, no, the best way to prevent illness is to have immunity. If you don't have it. the best way is to strengthen your immune system as much as possible, then expose yourself to a small inoculant of the virus. You, know like vaccines do with their immune boosting adjuvants and weaked viral loads.
When asked directly Fauci says Vitamin D and C might boost immune response, but all other traditional supplements are worthless. As far as I know the curse word "Zinc" has never passed his lips, even when directly asked about it in a Senate hearing.
Stop the revolving door between CDC and the drug industry. Get rid of the profit incentive based on pushing pills and vaccines instead of health.
Big pharma is no doubt already preparing for the next big wave of sickness after the masks come off and people get exposed to normal virus loads again.
It is also more than bits of the virus...it is the adjuvants that boost the immune response to those bits.
Odd that big pharma is silent on promoting a general enhanced immunity, yet rely on that mechanism for their single-dose products (or better yet, once a year).
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