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The situation in the United State is, indeed, bleak for liberals. The biggest problem being that we don't have a "unified front" like the conservatives appear to. So, what does this mean for me? The voting process in the United States is a farce. We have a two party system that makes it impossible for independents or third parties to actually get elected. And in the end, that means that when you are in the voting booth, you MUST be a hypocrite. It's pretty much required. I have always felt that I should vote with my conscience. But this no longer applies since no one else appears to do this. There are a set of values that I hold dear to me, but the only candidates who support them have little chance of getting elected, so I have to settle for someone who might. It's kind of like being in a situation where you have three possible mates. One is bad for you, but you like him/her. One if good for you, but you don't feel like she/he's the right one. And one is non-descript. You DO have a choice because no one else is involved in this decision. But with elections, you add the input of millions of other people (who don't really count in the end unless you believe the lies about your representatives actually representing you) and the situation gets hairy.

So in November of 2004 I am going to walk into the polls and pull the lever for the liberal candidate that has the most chance of winning. Even if I can't stand that fuck. (In the end they're all fucks of varying degrees in every party) I'm going to be a hypocrite and shelve my morals and values and vote for the most likely winner. As it is, none of the current candidates are good enough for my tastes. Kucinich is about the closest to what I believe, but he only pays lip service to what he's campaigning for. I think if he were elected and got in the thick of it, he'd probably be overwhelmed. (We need more type A liberals with a sense of order and organization, like me, to run as candidates. None of this softie crap, stop and smell the roses crap.)

Oh well... just venting about how much I hate our election process. Don't even get me started on the last election or electronic voting and Diebold...

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  • I think the best thing that could happen to politics in the US is for the voting system to be changed. There are a number of other systems out there, and as it turns out, just about ALL of them are better than the one we're using. The one we have does the best job of creating a two-party system and perpetuating it, by forcing people to note vote FOR a candidate, but more often AGAINST one. As you point out - if one of the majority party candidates you find unaccepable, then you have to vote for the other
    • But how does the system get changed?

      THAT, is the problem. There aren't enough people who understand or care about the way the Electoral College works (or doesn't work) to think it needs to change. That's the problem with our politics and govenrment. It has a tendency towards mediocrity just like most Americans do. I would bet that if you asked one million random Americans what they thought of Clinton, that majority would say, "Oh... I don't know. He was OK I guess. He should have kept it in his pant

  • I hear "I would vote for indipendent if they could win" so often that, I have to say if all the people that say that would just vote for the indipendent maybe they would win. It is the way people think that make the way the system is. People don't care, they don't vote, then complane that the people they don't want in office are in office. Well all I can say is get out there and vote for who you want to vote for.

    (oh for the recored I do belive I disagree with you politicly)
    • The problem with voting for the independent right now is that there are just enough independents to pull just enough people away from the two major candidates to make elections very close. None of the independents have enough pull to really win. And to make matters worse, independents tend to be people who are fighting a big opponent (ie. the opponent has lots of support from the general public who is laregly uninformed and has no interest in being informed).

      So... if every person who didn't want Bush in
      • (I know you do. I think that's why you added me to your foes list. But I add all freaks to my friend's list since they care enough to dislike me. It's only Slashdot, and niether of us are really THAT important.)
        I just love that statment
  • "We have a two party system that makes it impossible for independents or third parties to actually get elected."

    How about we spread the blame around a little?

    The system does tend to work against a profusion of third parties, but there are three major reasons they aren't successful are: a. they tend to be either corrupt, prone to infighting and have no leadership worth speaking of (speaking as a former Libertarian...) b. the two major parties tend to steal their best ideas, which is fair play (again, speak
    • That's a pretty realistic view. Things can never be perfect in any system.

      Another little rant directed at our system in general (not you :) ):
      I still think our system has a way to go before it reaches the ideal. Even though our outward appearance is one of continuity, America's government has changed considerably multiple times over the decades. FDR's America is fairly different from G.W. Bush's America (even though they both used similar tactics to encourage war). Even JFK's America is vasty different
      • Well, it's kind of late, so I'm not dismissing your points, just answering briefly:

        Regarding self-responsibility: that's the old division of labor problem. A libertarian would argue that anyone who is willing should be able to set up shop and provide those services. That means that when the government provides them, they are effectively stealing those opportunities from people.

        As a conservative, I tend to agree somewhat, though I'm going to characterize it as a burden and argue that if the government is d

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