Journal memfree's Journal: Speech is only "free speech" when at odds with policy?(more) 17
This is a week old, but I've only just read the Economist article. I understand the need for crowd control, but the idea of _selective_ crowd control really irks me.
Basically, this guy, Mr. Bursey, is arrested for being anti-war in a Pro-Bush zone. He'd faced similar charges *years* ago after he'd done the same thing during the Nixon/Vietnam era, and they were dismissed by South Carolina's Supreme Court. When history repeated itself and the new charges were dismissed, our leaders sought out new ways to criminalize his behavior.
To quote the article:
- The prosecutors say that Mr Bursey was not in a special âoefree-speech zoneâ that was set up for protesters half a mile from the hangar. The pro-Bush people did not need to be there because they were not protesting. Mr Bursey told the cops, defiantly, that he was under the impression that the whole of America was a free-speech zone.
Feh.
Update:
After NeMon'ess pointed out that Bursey will not be given a juried trial, I looked around a little, and immediately found some more links on the story. All but the last take similar positions. My apologies for not starting off with more details. Thanks to NeMon'ess for pointing this out!
- Trial Started Tuesday. Bursey contends that the charges have changed "That wasn't what I got arrested for"
- Trial delayed (for technicality).
- PA Op-Ed doesn't like Ashcroft, mentions Bursey.
- The Charlotte Observer's coverage is less sympathetic, and cites the fine to be 1/10th the price reported in other papers.
Paper cuts are dangerous (Score:2)
Ummm...So was I.
That kind of defeats the purpose of protesting if you are only allowed to protest in an area half a mile away from that which you are protesting.
Re:Paper cuts are dangerous (Score:1)
No wait, I do still mind it. Arbitrary arrests are always bad -- even if dole
right to protest fades more by the year (Score:2)
You know, one that felt that the Constitution should set their policies. What does it say that Thomas and Scalia don't even stand out that much any more?
Rustin
Agreed (Score:2)
Re:Agreed (Score:1)
Re:Agreed (Score:2)
Part of the intent was protection of property from invaders (local and foreign), another part was protection against tyranny.
Then the Reconstruction Amendments were coaxed from the States and guess what? They have the same limitations as the fe
IL Navy (Score:2)
Please, tell us more.
Rustin
Re:IL Navy (Score:2)
The sub was moored in Chicago and I toured it with a group from Church when I was a kid. No idea any more when the Navy was begun or if it is still around. For some reason I am remembering it was defense against someone from across the lake, but I can not remember who (or how accurate that is).
Re:IL Navy (Score:2)
To this day (I think) all State of Illinois Military Orders/Directives, etc. are titled "Military and Naval Department".
This per that retired CSM mentioned in another response.
more info (Score:2)
South Carolina Progressive Network [scpronet.com] Mr. Bursey heads this group.
Re:more info (Score:1)
If accurate, the part that troubles me most is this bit: "Mr. Bursey reports that he was told that he had to either put down his sign or leave the area. In other words, it was not his presence in the area but his presence holding a sign that was expressing a politica
Re:more info (Score:2)
"Marchant gave lawyers until July 23 to file legal briefs and said he will rule about a week after that. "If the defense prevails, in all likelihood the government will dismiss the charge," he said from the bench."
So the law won't be overturned, damn it.
we don't need the 1st amendmant... (Score:1)
Re:we don't need the 1st amendmant... (Score:1)
For the case in question, I'd have applauded the Secret Service for killing the guy on the spot if he was waving a gun instead of a sign. It wouldn't have mattered why -- it j
Re:we don't need the 1st amendmant... (Score:1)
Can a singleton society be considered polite?
Re:we don't need the 1st amendmant... (Score:1)
What do you do during and after. Hire MeatWagon Dan?
Think people get up in arms over costs of normal trash pick up.
And what about spot shortages?
"Bob you were late with the ammo shipment.
That's Rude!" Blammo!
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Re:we don't need the 1st amendmant... (Score:1)
The moral of the Bursey affair seems to be : Would-be assasins can go right up front if they've got props in favor of current policy, but those who hone