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Journal phyxeld's Journal: Safari v73 4

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Safari v73, or "beta 2", is working quite well. The cmd-W bug that plagued me in v62 (it usually closes tabs, but sometimes closed the whole window) is fixed. Tabs look a bit better. The rendering engine has all the new fixes Hyatt has been talking about. Tabs can extend off the edge when you get too many. It could just be my imagination, but I think it's faster, too.

Bad news: It keeps asking for my keychain password. I don't know why. Everytime it launches, and sometimes on certain sites (not sites I have ever typed or stored a password for), I get the Unlock Keychain password prompt. So far I've just clicked cancel everytime. Thats the only quirk I've found so far. Granted, I've only been using it for about 40 minutes, but still...

I'm really glad to be running an officially released beta again.
Didn't feel right submitting bugs from the leaked one, and I couldn't very well go back to using v60 without tabs...

Another big thing thats bugging me though:
Proxy Support? I've never been able to get any version of Safari or Chimera/Camino to use my ssh socks proxy. The only Mac browser that will use the socks proxy, as far as I can tell, is Mozilla.

Camino does connect to the proxy, but then fails (so when there is a socks proxy in network settings, camino can't load anything at all). I can see in the ssh -v output that it's made a connection to the proxy port, but it never gets as far as sending the hostname it wants to connect to. (When mozilla connects, the ssh -v output shows a connection, followed by the hostname and port number mozilla wants to connect to). The -v output of a attempted camino connection looks exactly the same as if I telnet to localhost on the proxy port, and then close the connection. (Almost as if camino is trying to talk something other than SOCKS4 to the port...)

IIRC, old versions of Safari behaved the same way as Camino, connecting to the proxy, but never getting through to the remote site. The v73 Safari I'm running now doesn't even connect to the proxy at all; when there's a SOCKS proxy set in Network Preferences, Safari just continues to browse directly to the web. I noticed that Network Prefs lets you enter different proxy info for different network interfaces, and it dawned on me that maybe programs just ask "whats the proxy" and don't get it from the right interface. So I configured the socks proxy settings again, on every interface, but that still didn't do it. Mozilla, of course, doesn't use the system proxy prefs, so I just enter the proxy in the application's prefs and it works.

For what it's worth, I'm creating my proxy with this command:

ssh user@host -v -D 8080 -C

...and checking if a browser is browsing through it by loading this page. I think having proxy settings be system-wide is really annoying. I wish each browser could be configured to use a proxy on an individual basis, like Mozilla, and I wish it would actually work.

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  • ... is that it only works on Jaguar. I never upgraded to Jaguar because I'm pretty happy with my 10.1.5 system, and really, I'm not going to shell out money for the upgrade.

    So I stick to Mozilla and Chimera, with the occasional Internet Explorer when nothing else works (happens once in a blue moon).

    • I never upgraded to Jaguar because I'm pretty happy with my 10.1.5 system, and really, I'm not going to shell out money for the upgrade.

      Wow! I can't even remember all the other things Jaguar made better, but not being able to run Safari would really suck. You should really get Jaguar asap.

      p.s, check your email.
      • You are probably right, but at 129,00$ [apple.com], I think I'll gladly skip. Of course I could get a pirate version somewhere, but then my iBook is the first machine that goes without any pirated software.

        What is better in Jaguar? Hope it isn't more bloated, I mean on my G3 600MHz with 384Meg RAM it shouldn't really get any slower than OS X 10.1.5. On top of that, my Mac is the only machine that is currently *not* in a "experimental" stage. My Dual AMD is far from being usable and my router/firewall (P166/256M

  • From the Safari page [apple.com]

    Java maximized On Mac OS X, Java applets work best in Safari, which takes advantage of the latest version of the standard Java Internet Plug-In. Applets load much faster than previously and the plug-in supports new advanced caching features for Java classes and JAR files. Certificates used in signed applets are now stored directly into the Mac OS X Keychain, providing centralized access. What's more, you'll find that Safari and the Java 1.4.1 Plug-In allow you to work with more Java-b

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