the_mad_poster's Journal: Mr. Science Says Global Warming Is Cool

Thank you to the gentle sir/madam who provided the upmods. You can rest better at night knowing that you just made some poor slob waste an entire batch of precious, precious points.

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Since alot of Bushies like to point to sudden cold snaps in the U.S. and say "HAHA GLOBAL WARMING IS TEH LIBRUL LIE!" (mainly because they don't understand the concept of global warming or its effects, but never mind that), I give you the year's average temperatures for some zip codes generated randomly from a perl script. It's not any more scientific, but at least I didn't have to falsify and selectively edit any documents in the process of making my point. Note that I did, however, skip over a couple of zip codes it generated because it started out with a nasty inclination to keep giving me mid-western zip codes, so the graphs were almost all the same because the zones were all in the same general area (of course, this means I altered the experiment to work AGAINST my hypothesis and it still worked out... funny that).

http://www.weather.com/activities/other/other/weather/climo-monthly-graph.html?locid=58483&from=36hr_bottomnav_undeclared

http://www.weather.com/activities/other/other/weather/climo-monthly-graph.html?locid=54107&from=36hr_bottomnav_undeclared

http://www.weather.com/activities/other/other/weather/climo-monthly-graph.html?locid=87105&from=36hr_bottomnav_undeclared

http://www.weather.com/activities/other/other/weather/climo-monthly-graph.html?locid=63847&from=36hr_bottomnav_undeclared

http://www.weather.com/activities/other/other/weather/climo-monthly-graph.html?locid=25701&from=36hr_bottomnav_undeclared

http://www.weather.com/activities/other/other/weather/climo-monthly-graph.html?locid=15311&from=36hr_bottomnav_undeclared

http://www.weather.com/activities/other/other/weather/climo-monthly-graph.html?locid=72107&from=36hr_bottomnav_undeclared

Not really sure

[HokieSeas]

what you are trying to show one way or another by showing average monthly temperatures. With nothing to compare it to historically.

But looking into some of your zip codes at weatherunderground, I did notice an interesting trend. It does seem that in general, the high temperatures through the previous year comapred to the typical average are about the same, but the average low for the previous year looks to be higher than the average. You know, more peaks above the average than valleys below just by visual

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Straw Man

[elmegil]

You're right, anyone who claims there's no such thing as global warming is a moron.

But the main point of many people is not that there's no global warming, but that there's no good science conclusively demonstrating that it's 1) all about us and 2) within our power to control.

You've heard me say this before: that does NOT mean I think CO2 pollution is a good thing. I am in favor of Kyoto generally.

But the conclusion that humans are the primary and controlling cause of global warming is NOT "fact" despite

Re:Straw Man

[tomhudson]

I'll bite:

I can't use a psychological model to predict what Johnny will be doing at 21 based on data from his first 5 years

If Johnny is torturing cats at 5, he'll probably be in jail for some sort of violent crime by 21.

So, while I can't predict exactly WHAT crime he's going to commit, its more than even money he'll be in the crossbar hotel.

Same with global warming - we might not be able to predict exactly what's happening, bet we do know its happening, and that we're exacerbating the situation. The no

Re:Straw Man

[elmegil]

The same people making claims about runaway human-caused global warming were claiming in the 70's that we would have another ice age soon. I don't find their flipflop in position very convincing.

When all you chicken littles actually stop screaming about the sky falling and concentrate on fixing the bad science that's been done, you MIGHT win back some of your lost credibility. Until then, you're just crying wolf; even if you're right this time, you've been wrong enough times and done enough lousy science