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I don't give a shit how piss-poor the mayor of new orleans and the governor of Louisiana are. That's the pure fucking spin. I am a resident of NEITHER, the people of those areas can hold their OWN leaders asses to the fire, and I expect they will.

I do OTOH have to live with federal response to emergency events that MAY effect me.

You'd think post-9/11 that would be, oh, you know, a priority or something. Guess not. Good thing this wasn't a foreign invasion or a terrorist attack.

Fuck, for the first time in my life I find the scenario found in the movie "Red Dawn" to be ALMOST believable.

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  • I'm going out to the woods right now to practice shooting Reds with my compound bow. Then its off to "Avoiding Strafing Fire from a Hind while on Horseback" and shooting your friends 'cause they double crossed you 101.

    Yes, you too can form a rag-tag guerilla army of ten into a force that can defeat battalions of highly trained Russian paratroopers.

    "I thought there were a billion screaming Chinese?"

    "There where"
  • We've all heard about how there were 'enough' troops in the Louisiana and Mississippi National Guard still here at home.

    However I would like to know:

    * How many of the troops that would normally be among the first to be called up in a disaster were over in Iraq?

    * How many members of the LA and MS National Guard have MP or other law enforcement training? How many of those troops are overseas?

    * How much of their equipment, especially those items useful in a disaster like helocopters, trucks, earthmoving equipm
    • No conversation on this topic can really commense w/o praising the guys who really did a great job. The US Coast Guard. They were completely overwhelmed, but man, they were in there with choppers dropping relief supplies and airlifting people out since day one.

      Army Corps of Engineers also responded almost immediately.

      Anyway, there are THREE distinct things the president(and only the president) could've done almost immediately to help curb the crisis.
      1. Issue an executive order suspending the jones act te
      • No conversation on this topic can really commense w/o praising the guys who really did a great job. The US Coast Guard. They were completely overwhelmed, but man, they were in there with choppers dropping relief supplies and airlifting people out since day one.

        Army Corps of Engineers also responded almost immediately.

        True ... praise is due to everyone who dived in and did what they could.

        I don't think it is an accident that the guy who has been put in charge of all Federal Katrina relief efforts is a Coast
        • I don't think he would have even needed to federalize the troops to do this. Just ask them to start moving and say we'll worry about the paperwork later.

          IF you get actual approval from the governor, fine, skip the paperwork. But you can't do it without the approval of the governor, period. Maybe if a state's government is nonfunctional, you can go ahead without its approval, but that was not the case here.
          • Well I believe that Gov. Blanco (as well as the MS and AL governors) had requested out-of-state NG and a number of Governors had offered to send their NG. Supposedly the paperwork was holding up moving the troops in.
    • The thing is, though, that people are trying to give all the blame to the feds for everything that happened. So an obvious defense against that outrageous claim is that some of the blame, at the least, lies elsewhere.

      It's like complaining that your brother is a tattletale because he cried when you hit him.

      ces asks some good questions, I suppose. Personally, I don't really care about the Iraq thing, since I think Iraq is more important, and if the NG was left without sufficiently trained and prepared peopl
      • Believe it or not I mostly agree with everything you said above.

        There was plenty of FUBAR to go around.

        ces asks some good questions, I suppose. Personally, I don't really care about the Iraq thing, since I think Iraq is more important, and if the NG was left without sufficiently trained and prepared people, that is the responsibility of the governors of those states. But if ces wants to know, fine.

        Why would the Federal Government stripping personel and equipment from the LA, MS, and AL NG be the respective
        • Why would the Federal Government stripping personel and equipment from the LA, MS, and AL NG be the respective Governor's problem?

          Because the NG is their responsibility. Protecting their state is their responsibility. It's one of the many reasons that the power to use the NG by the federal government should not taken lightly.

          Also why would this not impact the ablity of the local NG to respond quickly to an emergency?

          It does. I am not saying Bush bears no blame for any shortfall of manpower or equipment,
          • Because the NG is their responsibility. Protecting their state is their responsibility. It's one of the many reasons that the power to use the NG by the federal government should not taken lightly.

            Where does the money come from? I thought much of the NG budget was Federal, especially the equipment budget.

            The DoD seems to have a lot of control over what NG units are where, what their specialty is, and what equipment they have.

            Of course the Federal-State tention is why there is so much screaming from Governor
      • There are many other questions to ask. I want to know the exact timeline of events: Nagin, Blanco, Bush, Brown, Chertoff, who they talked to, what they did, etc. I want to know if there were things they wanted to do but could not, and if so why not, and what can be done so that next time they can. I want to know if Brown was incompetent, so we can perhaps have more scrutiny or guidelines for future people in those positions. I want to know the last 20 years' history of the levees and who funded what and how
        • I don't think they actually did anything wrong. It's the things they failed to do. And I'd like to know *why* they didn't do them.

          What I meant was that we don't know if the failure to do $x represented a failure at all, in the normal sense. If I promised to buy milk on the way home but couldn't because I lost my wallet, or got in a car accident, or got shot and killed by a carjacker ... do any of those things constitute a failure to buy millk? Technically speaking, all of them do, but do they constitute a
  • I am putting my faith in a giant statue of Pat Robertson. It has laser eyeballs, and when the end comes will destroy Venezuela before launching into space where the Yeti will take us to wherever it is they are supposed to take you or something.

    Bah!

    This post sucks.

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