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Comment: Re:DRM isn't dangerous. (Score 1) 578

by zelzax (#15610550) Attached to: RMS Calls to Liberate Cyberspace

I'd thought I'd clarify a few points people replied on...

If you have DRM-encrypted music files on your hard drive, it's probably because you consented to have them put there.

The discussion doesn't really involve whether or not I've consented to the use of DRM restrictions, any more than whether or not I've consented to fill up my car with Chevron-only gas in the fine print of the car contract. Such stipulations are very anti-competitive and bad for any free market, hence the need for gov'ts to ban such practices.

Just because car manufacturers have been selling cars that run on gasoline purchased at any gas station doesn't mean the consumer has a fundamental and inviolable right to mix-n-match car & fuel however they please.

You're scaring me.

You won't ever see a Chevrolet automobile that only runs on a fuel blend sold at Chevron stations, though, because the market would reject it. It's the market, not the law, that keeps things the way they have been.

If that were the case with DRMing of music and movies etc, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Which brings me to my next point...

Don't like DRM'd music? Don't buy it.

I don't, really. But **AA execs have near monopolies on their industries due to the overreaching effect of copyright, among other things. People don't really have that much of a choice. In fact, to find non-DRM movies, you have to ignore DVDs and go all the way back to videotapes. Pretty soon there may not be much non-DRMed content left.

The manufacturer sells you the car, not a license to use the car. The correct analogy [to purchasing music] would be leasing a car...

No, the correct analogy to leasing a car would be streaming music, not buying it.

When people buy a CD, they expect that they own the physical CD. That's not unreasonable... As far as non-physical media is concerned, this is something new.

Not really. Even with a physical CD, it's not the plastic disc you're paying for, it's the non-physical portion of the disc - the information on the disk - that's valuable. If you're of the opinion that the information should always be tied directly to that physical medium, then you probably think that ripping the CD to mp3 format for your computer or iPod is illegal, and making a back-up copy is illegal, and copying certain portions for fair use is illegal. Even streaming the music to a different portion of your house would probably be illegal, because the information is traveling without the physical CD traveling. You have very good company with the **AA execs.

Essentially I'm arguing that when get a product is something digital like music or movies or software, that we shouldn't automatically lose all our rights associated with that product. DRM causes us to lose significant rights, even more than we've already lost.

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