Comment Re:For as accurate (Score 1) 271
It doesn't need to be accurate. All it needs to do is let them narrow down the list of videos, before they assess the actual content.
It doesn't need to be accurate. All it needs to do is let them narrow down the list of videos, before they assess the actual content.
Most of the exfiltration was a bog-standard enumeration vulnerability. Items were sequentially addressed and vulnerable to insecure direct object reference, so the bulk of the "attack" boiled down to getting multiple users to coordinate their wget to retrieve as much as possible before AWS closed the door.
The attack on accounts/access was largely unrelated to the bulk exfiltration.
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The short version is that a character on the other side of the country - I'll call him Brian McDonagh, since the Irish Times saw fit to do the same, so it's not exactly doxxing anyone - bought a site he thought would be perfect for this. But he lost the bid, and responded by filing objection after objection to the Athenry site, until the process ground to a halt.
This isn't a win for the locals at all. And after costing Apple three years and untold legal costs, I can't imagine they'll be too open to another bid from Mr McDonagh either. This is just a complete abuse of the appeals process.
(oh, and that rural town of 3950 people, is minutes away from the 4th largest city in the country. Just to rearrange your own 'impact assessment' a little.)
So, this is literally 5 minutes down the road from me (when the traffic's good)
This isn't a popular decision here. I don't personally know anyone who had any objections at all - although we do note one of the people objecting resides on the other side of the country.
On the other hand, it's not the end of the world either. Once they're operational, datacenters don't employ anywhere near as many people as you'd think. Especially when they're single-tenant and managed off-site. And as small and rural as Athenry sounds (and looks), it's turning into a commuter town anyway. The city would be considered a very reasonable commute by American standards. (I have colleagues that can get in in 10-15 minutes - but sometimes take an hour to get home. Traffic is our major problem here, and this site would have little impact on it.)
Someone mentioned taxes. No-one's here is under any illusion that the topics are related. Denmark is not exactly a tax haven, and the two sites were announced at the same time. This is a stupid process that's been dragging out years longer than it should have, and ground to a halt enough times that the end was inevitable.
Someone else mentioned renewables. It's entirely wind here. We don't have a lot of scope for hydro; it's just too flat to support it. We do have a lot of scope for tidal, but little willingness to tamper with the picturesque coastlines when wind is so very plentiful here.
All in all, this is just a failure of process. Not the planning process itself, but the appeals process shouldn't be able to drag out so long as to destroy an opportunity. There should be a limit to how many appeals you can lose, otherwise the process stops being a battle of facts, and simply a battle of stubbornness.
I mean, imagine if you were trying to build a home - and someone a few hundred miles away objected to it. And objected, and objected. And lost every time, but was able to continue objecting until the build was no longer feasible. You'd be asking where the line is too. People should be able to object, and those objections should be able to hold some weight - I think it's fantastic that the common man can actually win against someone the size of Apple. But if the developer wins, that should mean something too.
If we could compare the total "carbon footprint" for a similar itinerary sans-ship, then we'd have something to talk about. Flying 8880 people (~20 747s) from city to city. Bussing (~180 busses) them to their (~22) hotels. Powering those (~22) hotels. And restaurants & bars enough to feed/inebriate them.
A cruise ship isn't just a mode of transportation. It's an entire holiday resort, with almost all the associated amenities, and a population past most the towns I've lived in. If we can't compare the miles-per-gallon with that of a medium-sized town or a large holiday resort, we're ignoring a large part of the equation.
As ordered, it would only affect the particular phone in question. Just create a new version of the OS that disables the delays and lock-out ONLY IF the hardware serial number is ABC123.
My concern (or my understanding of the concern, or whatever) is that keying the payload to a specific device is incredibly misleading. Even if the payload is keyed, signed, even if the FBI stick to the very letter and spirit of the Order and destroy the payload once used, they still make an irreversible powergrab.
There are precisely two defences against All Writs. One is to challenge the legality of the request itself - which is incredibly difficult to do. The other is to plead that the request is undue burden. This is even contained in the court's request itself:
"To the extent that Apple believes that compliance with this Order would be unreasonably burdensome, it may make an application to this Court for relief within five business days of receipt of the Order". ( https://assets.documentcloud.o... )
So within this context, my concern is that if their hand is forced this time, or if they agree that well gosh, fighting terrorists is the Right Thing to do here - and produce this keyed payload; then they've dramatically lowered the bar for further requests. It'll be near-impossible for them to argue Undue Burden in further requests, as obviously all they need to do is re-key & re-sign the same payload. It'd take longer to read the next Order than to fulfil it.
"Slippery slope" is so over-used, but that's exactly what we have here. It's not just a slope. It's a freaking cliff. It's a one-way street. If they concede this time, there is no going back.
Piecemeal, this request doesn't bother me in the slightest. In a vacuum, assisting as far as they can is probably the right thing to do. But Spherical Cows don't actually exist. This isn't going to happen in a vacuum. This is going to have genuine ramifications far beyond this particular case. Once they agree that this approach is actually possible, they open themselves up to many more requests, potentially less defendable requests, and potentially in any other jurisdiction where they have a legal presence. In the EU. In Israel. In Saudi Arabia, in China, in India
Is Glasgow filled with some sort of protected class? Lot of Africans, or Muslims? Was the joke meant to be racist?
No more than any other major city. Anecdotally I'd say far less so than the south of the UK, but I don't have numbers to hand, so take that as opinion rather than fact.
Or just anti-life?
Basically, this. It could be construed as "classist", as Glasgow's primary reputation is being something of a rough city (or a tough/hard city from a local's point of view). - however the irony isn't lost on me that Sunderland (where the 'tweeter' resides) isn't exactly god's kingdom either. An argument could also be made that Scots themselves are a minority, having only ~10% of England's population. (Easy to miss, the accident occurred in Scotland but the accused is in the north of England).
But mostly, he just seems to be a dick. And that's much less protected here than it is in the US.
This is one of the biggest differences between the US & UK legal cultures. While basically similar systems (they share the same "common law" roots), they're exercised entirely differently. The US deals very much with absolutes, and the letter of the law. Most of your primary rights are the right to dissent - and understandably so, since it's what your nation was built upon. To this end you have free speech, press, assembly, firearms, etc. That is, the right to have a dissenting opinion, to share/publish this opinion, to vote on it, to protest, etc. All the way up to having enough guns around that the govt should be wary of the people - although personally I'd argue this one's now a futile effort given the govt clearly won that arms race
But I digress; In the UK the law is very much more intent based. So we don't have free speech as an absolute - we judge each on its merits. So political speech, satire, etc are essentially protected speech - very much in line with the intent of your first amendment - but public disorder, breech of the peace, hate speech, etc, very much less so - which runs contrary to the letter of your first amendment.
This one falls into an odd gray area though. We have no obligation to provide a platform for free speech. So while this wouldn't have been seen has malicious if shared as a joke between friends, it falls foul of the Malicious Communications Act, which allows for something like;
Section 1 of the Act covers the sending to another of any letters, electronic communications, photographs and recordings that are indecent, grossly offensive or which convey a threat (which may be false), provided there is an intention on the part of the sender to cause distress or anxiety to the person who receives them.
The offence refers to the sending, delivering or transmitting, there is no requirement for the communication to reach (or be read by) the person who is intended to read it.
( http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/c... )
So this is where we end up with situations which can appear absurd. Someone makes a complaint to the police. The police satisfy themselves that there's reasonable grounds that such a communication has been sent. But it's not up to the police to judge the intent ("provided there is an intention on the part of the sender
So far, only the first of these steps has happened.
'life sentence' has a very specific meaning in UK law. Up to 15 years if it's not murder, up to 30 years if it is murder. This is why we charge people with multiple murders - we can't imprison them "until you die", but we can imprison them for 3*life.
There does exist "whole life order" which is closer to the US definition of "life sentence", but it's an extraordinary response to, well, the extraordinary. (and comes with its own restrictions. You can be charged with murder under the age of 21. You can be sentenced to Life under the age of 21. You *cannot* receive a "whole life order" under the age of 21.)
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