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Comment Re:Security expert point of view. (Score 1) 88

I am very familiar with White Hat. They use a combination of internally developed tools and real live thinking human beings really actively trying to exploit code and logic flaws in the environment.

In my experience, they are very sharp and very (exhaustively) comprehensive.

This is not a handful of "audit kiddies" who barely know how to install and run their tools let alone understand what those tools find.

One of the chief duties of the mathematician in acting as an advisor... is to discourage... from expecting too much from mathematics. -- N. Wiener