Its not a little irrelevant thing. If Farmville is important to a lot of people, and it works only in the most broken browser on the planet, then Farmville is more relevant that even "standards". We, the slashdot crowd, are not indicative or the general population. What we thinks is superior, and how we think things should be done is what is irrelevant. This is why Linux is still marginal. It is done the way we think things should be done, not the way the majority of people think it should be. I thought that a netbook was great for the wife to use check email, do the bills, etc, but the screens on just about every netbook around were too low res to adequately run the flash stuff on the Webkinz site. That was important to her, so that meant that even though I would prefer to think of Flash as irrelevant, and even though I know there is little that can be done with flash that could not also be done using open standards, the point is that she bought the HP mini 2133 because it was a netbook with a full 1280x800 screen, ran windows XP and had a good solid, stable, up to date flash player. That was the only reason she got that system. It was the only reason we paid $100 more for a netbook, but it was what an average consumer wanted, and therefore was much more relevant than the arguments that "its running windows instead of a free OS", "but you don't need your excel spreadsheet to do the bills, you can use OO.o", or "Flash is just crap". What the consumer wants beats "standards", what the consumer wants beats technical superiority, what the consumer wants is relevant.