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Comment: Re:Irony (Score 2) 238

by trip23 (#46189989) Attached to: CERN Wants a New Particle Collider Three Times Larger Than the LHC

What's ironic for me is that the articles over the last couple of days have been a lot more interesting to me than in recent weeks, while I fully support the FUCK BETA protest, it's a real shame that we're missing out on some interesting discussion.

That's the price you have to pay for revolting against the overlords. I, for one, do not welcome our new beta.

Comment: Re:What goes around (Score 1) 329

by trip23 (#40230029) Attached to: China Secretly Clones Austrian Village

As far as I know there was never a Austrian presence in either Rome or Greece. Well, okay, the Holy Roman Empire, but that was German right? Anyway, take a trip around Vienna and you will see wall to wall neo-classical architecture.

It's called culture. When people see something somewhere else that they like, they either steal it (if it isn't nailed down) or go home and copy it.

For about 400 years most of today's Austria was part of the Roman Empire. So it's the other way round. Noricum (a celtic kingdom - roughly Austria) was incorporated into the Roman Empire in 16 BC and supplied Roman Armies with weaponry (Noric Steel). Apart of that 'detail' I think your point stands.

Comment: Serious Organized Crime Agency (Score 1) 310

by trip23 (#39039359) Attached to: UK Law Enforcement Starts Seizing Music Blogs
I actually enjoyed

If you have downloaded music using this website you may have committed a criminal offence which carries a maximum penalty of up to 10 years

Seriously, is SOCA known for taking down sites? On there website they have

Have you received correspondence purporting to be from SOCA and want to verify its authenticity?
http://www.soca.gov.uk/contact-soca

It kinda sounds fishy to me.. Anyway now they're collecting tons of IP-addresses of Slashdotters who can't resist to click on links.

Comment: Re:and where is exactly the problem? (Score 1) 915

by trip23 (#39013883) Attached to: Journalist Arrested By Interpol For Tweet

"One who believes as I do, that free intellect is the chief engine of human progress, cannot but be fundamentally opposed to Bolshevism as much as to the Church of Rome. The hopes which inspire communism are, in the main, as admirable as those instilled by the Sermon on the Mount, but they are held as fanatically and are as likely to do as much harm."

Bertrand Russel, The Practice and Theory of Bolshevism (1920)

"One strength of the communist system of the East is that it has some of the character of a religion and inspires the emotions of a religion. Unless the concept of peace based on law gathers behind it the force and zeal of a religion, it can hardly hope to succeed."

Albert Einstein, "Atomic War or Peace" part II (1947)

Comment: Re:and where is exactly the problem? (Score 2) 915

by trip23 (#39007371) Attached to: Journalist Arrested By Interpol For Tweet
Soviet-communism was sort of a quasi-religion that replaced "paradise in heaven" with "paradise on earth". Symbols of the church or religion were replaced with symbols of state commuinism in order to appeal to illiterate peasants. Stalin's purges murdered many communists/socialists/anarchists and Stalin himself was educated in an Orthodox seminary.

Comment: Re:Much of the world has "illegal speech" (Score 4, Informative) 915

by trip23 (#39007191) Attached to: Journalist Arrested By Interpol For Tweet

Wow, that's a compelling argument. I'd put it a step above "You are a doody head" and a step below "Nuh uh".

I suggest you go to Sweden and preach how you find homosexuality to be abhorrent and against "God's" will.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/20/three-muslims-convicted-gay-hate-leaflets
So here's your example about homosexuality and "God's" will. Those damn Britains are against free speech!

Or maybe go to Germany and say really love Hitler.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksverhetzung

Quoting wikipedia:
The German penal code (Strafgesetzbuch) establishes that someone is guilty of Volksverhetzung if the person
in a manner that is capable of disturbing the public peace

  • incites hatred against segments of the population or calls for violent or arbitrary measures against them; or
  • assaults the human dignity of others by insulting, maliciously maligning, or defaming segments of the population

So yes, if you are saying I love Hitler and let's kill some Arabs in Berlin, you are in conflict with the law, which - in liberal/western european democraties - tries to protect his citizens against organised attempts to commit mass murder.

What TFA describes as the reason for detention would be protected in the UK and Germany.

Do you see the difference in the reasoning in countries like UK or Germany compared to Saudi-Arabia? They are fundamentally opposed in terms where your freedom is limited. A concept of human rights and secular law on one side and a concept of religious law / God's law on the other.

Comment: Re:Reasonable decision (Score 1) 477

by trip23 (#38947287) Attached to: Indian Court Orders Google To Remove Content
Agreed regarding semi-totalitarian states like China or Iran. Nowadays the opposition in western and western-oriented countries usually doesn't get crushed about issues of free speech, the government is aware of the danger of such accusations. Mikhail Khodorkovsky is serving a 14 year prison sentence for fraud. He supported the opposition in Russia. A Ukrainian court sentenced Tymoshenko to seven years in prison after she was found guilty of abuse of office when brokering the 2009 gas deal with Russia. Martin Luther King, Jr was imprisoned because of a non-violent protest, disrupting traffic or so... Clinton's impeachment was based on lying... I am rambling and should get some work get done...

Comment: Re:Reasonable decision (Score 1) 477

by trip23 (#38947275) Attached to: Indian Court Orders Google To Remove Content

The quotation is also a "fallacy", if used without context. Imagine there's a party saying there should be a law that will kill you and your family, will you "defend it to the death"?

Yes, and oppose it equally -- through speech, not violence. -GiH

Thank you. This is why I am still on slashdot, people reading comments and actually commenting in a thoughtful way.

Comment: Re:Reasonable decision (Score 3, Interesting) 477

by trip23 (#38946315) Attached to: Indian Court Orders Google To Remove Content

Historical experience tells us that any attempt to shut down discussion will be abused. If we allow the government to set limits, they will set the limits in a way that benefits the government, and not the people. Therefore, there must be no limits.

I sympathise with your statement, but a government or a state has the duty to ensure the safety and freedom of all citizens and non-citizens who live in their area of control. Incitement to hatred or crime is such a danger and thus the government has to act and limit those actions of speech. There must be a debate over this limits.

So all those who called for the death of Osama Bin Laden should have gone to jail for that?

He should have stand trial, if possible. That was not the case. If somebody with executive power in the government issued a shoot-to-kill order, this person as well should have to face a trial. There was no declaration of war to Pakistan. If my neighbour tells me Bin Laden should be killed right away, I try to explain why this is not the best idea, but my neighbour should not go to jail because she has no power to issue those orders. If my neighbour repeatedly says "I am gonna kill this parasite at the other of the street" there should be consequences.

If we ever have another world war, it will be because of too much censorship, not too little.

Agreed. There's one raging, because a lot of the footsoldiers in Quaida/Taliban/etc are cut off from the wealth of information the world has to offer and a notion that god might be an idea invented by humans. The only answer I can think of is access to education and the basic concepts of human rights, as well as economic well being. In western countries the free flow of information kinda works.

Money is the root of all wealth.

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