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This post finally got me to foe someone:

Ok, here's my personal view- all sexual behavior is *learned* not *natural*. Whatever gives you sexual pleasure first becomes, by instinct, what turns you on forever after. Get raped by a homosexual in school, and you'll become gay.

Sex does have an instinctual purpose- but *only* heterosexual sex, and that purpose is for the continuation of the species *only*. To that end- transgendered people and homosexuals are mutations that need to be expunged from the genome. The fact that these mutations are not survival based means that they *will* eventually be expunged from the genome, if we are strong enough to deny them a cultural way of passing on their behavior. It's stupid, from a species survival or cultural survival standpoint, to encourage such behavior.

And that's what I truly believe, not just about homosexuals and the transgendered- but also about divorce, premarital sex, prostitution, and any other sexual immorality. From an evolutionary standpoint it's a dead end. If it wasn't for Church teaching against discrimination, I'd be for hunting permits to end this false "diversity".

Nice way to "explain" Roman Catholicism to the world (that's the title of his JE). I don't believe for one second that Roman Catholics, other Christian denominations, or other faiths would find this acceptable.

While there's a use for a "devils advocate" to ensure a close scrutiny of issues, and bring some "outside-the-box" thinking to problems, this is just pandering to a certain sick segment of society. The danger is not that anyone would post such a thing, but that it would find resonance with someone who sees it as a "call" or "mission".

He's fortunate that those of us who disagree with him don't espouse his methods.

I said a week ago in squiggleslash's journal:

Would I foe someone? If they get so churlish and it ends up causing real hurt to someone else (say, someone affected by the topic in my current JEs, which is sensitive enough that people have killed themselves over it), I would.

I did.

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  • Most of it is Zen and actually being mature about it- what you see as a mere troll, I'm putting forth as the actual way things *are*. And as for being able to visit Canada- from what you've posted, they're just another nation of Politically Correct Terrorists. PC is not useful, false diversity is not evolutionarily useful. And as for the answer as to why negative behaviors have not *actually* been expunged from the genome, it's because they're not gene based to begin with- they are mutations in *behavior* n

    • And I'd like to see what your mounties can do against a nuke.

      That's okay - Duddley Do-Right always gets his man! (which, I guess, is why Nell is still single :-)

      All kidding aside, if he had posted that from Canada I would have asked that his ISP yank his net access. They're pretty good about that when its so clear-cut.

      Canadian Human Rights Act

      Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act prohibits the communication by means of a telecommunication undertaking (including the Internet) of messages that

      • "Yep, were pinko gay-loving commie ter'rists."
        OMG ...
        wait..
        How is the status of imigration over there , Since I am a Pinko gay(Plutonic sense , unless I am really drunk) loving Terr'rist.

        I am terrible at making enemys I just don't do it very well and enjoy debates.
        So ... Well you know.
        (Excuse the spelling on someones computer in the UK as I am on holiday and the keyboard is odd and I have a hangover)

        • I was *going* to say - "Hey, aren't you supposed to be on vacation?" but as long as you have a hangover, you are obviously enjoying yourself (at least, you WERE enjoying yourself at some point).

          Status of immigration here? Well, we have a test:

          1. You have to be able to make moose calls, since dried moose dung patties are our primary currency
          2. You have to take immigration courses to make sure you can survive here. For example, the whole igloos, snowshoeing, and (if you're immigrating to oururban center, the
          • I only should have a criminal record ;) I don't though.
            Listen even implying that someone owns a Celine Dion record here is a capital offence

            • I only should have a criminal record ;) I don't though.

              I know the feeling. I've done stuff that should get me one (all sorts of rights protests, etc), but I just keep winning every time we get to court. Its gotten to the point where even parking tickets now cringe in fear (though if I believe its a valid ticket, I just pay it. That happens about once a decade. :-).

              ... which begs the question - when is the other shoe going to drop?

              Of course, then I'll rush out, buy a bunch of Celine Dion CDs, and plea

  • ...on the discussion forum of Kath.net [kath.net], a German Roman Catholic website, I've occasionally seen similarly bizarre remarks. Which is doubly incredible, because hate speech is pretty vigorously prosecuted here and their remarks were (amusingly or alarmingly) quite often in complete contradiction to the actual teachings of the Roman church.

    Thus it would seem he really does represent the beliefs of a hardcore set of Roman Catholic believers.

    Now doesn't that just brighten your day? :-)

    Cheers,

    Ethelred

    • Makes me want to go join a local church and lend them some moral support against the hate-mongers that walk among them.

      Part of the problem is that people of good will often don't realize that others aren't similarly good-willed. This is the "wolf in sheeps clothing". Whether he was trolling or not, he stepped way over the line. There's a difference between disagreeing with someone's beliefs, and their very right to live.

      • Makes me want to go join a local church and lend them some moral support against the hate-mongers that walk among them.

        Now you know why I'm so active in church, even though I actually don't much care for institutionalized religion (and, come to think of it, Jesus probably didn't, either). I think our church is one of the least-worst ones out there, perhaps aside from Quakers or Unitarian Universalists.

        Then again, the church I'm in now is mostly made up of former Roman Catholics fleeing just such loopy

    • I find it a bit difficult to believe that many churches don't -really- believe that type of thing-NOT ALL, granted, so all of you that do go to a genuinely tolerant church, put that flamethrower down!

      Truth is in action, though-while I lived in Denver, a preacher sued a man for running around trying to claim that he secretly hated homosexuals and attended a group intent upon outlawing it, possibly even ready to take less-then-legal action on their own. During the investigation, it turned out that the guy h

      • Well, I can think of a 3rd reason why they wouldn't want to sue ... the same as banks used to try to settle in private rather than sue in public when an employee embezzled a few hundred thousand. Plus, as you point out, it does open a whole can of worms.

        I like to think that there's a self-correcting "engine" at work here, and that we're seeing the beginning of the end of such things, as people become ever more "intolerant of intolerance."

        Its certainly not as bad as it was in the '80s. That was a nasty

        • I believe (and I hope I'm not seeing through rose-coloured glasses on this one) that the church as we know it is pretty much coming to an end

          There is a school of thought that Benedict née Ratzinger may be the guy to begin opening the doors. Two reasons: "Only Nixon could go to China"; and 2) he was a leading light in Vatican II, the last great opening of the Roman church. His lengthy meeting with Hans Küng -- the defrocked liberal Catholic theologian and old friend of Ratzinger's -- points in th

          • Never klooked at it that way ... while any president *could* have gone to China, the domestic repercussions would have been a major probelm, so yes, only Nixon could pull it off as having the *street cred* with the right, ironically because of Viet Nam.

            So here's a thought - without Viet Nam, would the US now be involved in an arms race/cold war with China? Kind of blows the mind, how real life is always stranger than fiction ... you couldn't come up with a scenario like this for a book and have it have a

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    • Either way, the noise has pretty much drowned out any intelligible signal. I like to think I'm pretty tolerant, but in this case it has devolved to a waste of bytes. C'est la vie, and all that.

  • Wow (Score:2)

    by OctaneZ ( 73357 )
    His comments really are unbelievable and uncontionable.

  • Usually it turns out the most rabid homophobes are actually homosexuals that attempt to repress their sexuality. This leads to fear, hate, self hate, and overcompensation. In other words, he just needs some man lovin'. I feel sorry for him, really.

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      • I don't know if it's his sexual proclivities or repression or what going on inside MH's brain. Don't much care, either. Once that sort of crap comes out the mouth (or keyboard, as the case may be) it really is irrelevant to me "how" he got that way. He's simply binned in the "fucking looney-toons" folder in my mind, reserved for bigots and religious fundamentalists, but I repeat myself.

        Frankly, I have no use for religion, but I also try to honestly look the other way when people stuff religious filth i

        • I agree. I haven't got a clue, and don't really want to know. I'm not in a position to do anything to help him, and I doubt he is receptive to counsel from anyone else at this point anyway, But its not a life or world view I would wish on anyone.

          I don't think he's representative of most people with religious beliefs. I'm an atheist, but when I was with the baptist fundies I wasn't anywhere near that ignorant. It didn't stop me from standing up during presentations and protesting about the tactics used by

    • It pretty much accepted in both psyciatric and police circles that homophobics who act out their anger are closet homosexuals in denial.

      http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_fuel2.htm [religioustolerance.org] results of one study - the homophobic men were more turned on by gay porn, as measured by the "peter-meter".

      Here's one case [justicejunction.com]. I've posted the first 2 paragraphs - you can follow the link to read the rest ...

      Brandon Teena was murdered just after 1:00 am on New Years Eve, in a tiny farmhouse in Humboldt, Nebraska. Two othe

    • If homosexuality was a learnt behaviour then it would have been something for me to try when I was single and experimental (Still experimental but in a one wife way) . Kissed a guy once when drunk , just felt wrong to me (not as in being gay is wrong , but me being gay is) So it pretty much was not a learnt behaviour i imagine , and I was brought up in a fairly liberal household and told there was nothing wrong with anzthing that are not hurting others.

      ~(again excuse spelling etc , read explination in previ

      • Kissed a guy once when drunk , just felt wrong to me

        Well, there you go. First time I kissed another guy, it was wonderful. :)

        • Which just goes to show that its all a process of self-discovery, not "learned behaviour". Of course, this brings up the whole question of "how *do* you help someone who is into such deep self-denial?" Unfortunately, the answer, in too many cases, is, "You can't."

          Though I wonder how the "irreligious right" deals with their loathing for anything that *might* be interpreted as an expression of homosexuality, and all those places in the Bible where guys kissed each other on meeting? Heck, they get all uptig

          • I got to agree-I just don't get the "gut reaction" looking at a nice-looking guy, that I do with a woman, nor the deeper response when there's a girl that I really start to fall for. It's a totally different process.

            And then I get to thinking-if being with another guy was considered "normal", and I was told to just "shut up and find a guy and quit your #*%*&-up female preferences" I couldn't do it and be happy. So if it works the opposite for someone else, who am I (or anyone) to deny them that same h

  • While I fully understand (and agree with) your position, in terms of setting the guy foe, thought I'd explain my view on it. (Did remove him from friends-while I will explain why I didn't use "foe", I certainly won't willingly be associated with such things.)

    I use "foe" for those who post incoherently or nothing more then swearing-laden rants. (Even if the swearing-laden rant is in favor of something I agree with, acting like an idiot isn't doing my side any favors!) To me, it doesn't so much mean "I stro

    • I'm glad you like what I've written so far. I got a little "burned out" at having to sit at the computer every night and come up with 1500-2500 words, so I took a break before I complete it. Its better to have it late, and maintain some sort of quality, than to rush it. Plus, I've gotten more feedback, which I certainly want to consider.

      The whole "it might resonate with others" is very true. Look at how many anti-abortionists felt they were incited to their acts by "They're killing babies. They're murder

      • I won't be defriending him, even though I find that statment of his reprehensable . I enjoy some of the other debates and will continue to try and persuade him to change his views .. that's me though .. Still got it in my head I can change the world ;)

        • By all means keep him on your friends list, and try to exert whatever influence you can bring to bear. Someone has to.

          In my case, it isn't possible, and not only because I had already drawn a "line in the sand" a week earlier on that very issue. I thought about just defriending him, but I really found what he had said to be disgusting, and I know that I would not want to be in the same room as someone who, for whatever reason, felt it was "okay" to say such a thing. Or that it would end up in a very hot

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